I think one of the most haunting things about the Jonestown tragedy is how one minute all those people were alive, Jim Jones was preaching his eerie 'Death Sermon' to them, in audio you could hear odd soothing elevator like music playing over PA system, and you could hear members of the cult voicing various opinions about what was to come.
Then next thing you know, less than 2 hours later, fly's are gathering.
All of it, them, their dreams, aspirations, hopes, joys, gone, just like that, in a snap.
One minute a vibrant human being, with the miracle of life flowing through veins, next minute a dead corpse, lifeless and still, frozen in a death pose.
No resurrection, no glory, no nothing, just gone, body and mind dead, flesh rotting.
I mean is that the ultimate reality we all face??
That's what I find so creepy...I mean what if that's all there is, regardless of personal belief, what if all there is is a Jonestown type of ending?
The thing about Jonestown is many died in same place at once...
But daily across the nation, world, many more than that die collectively.
So I mean is that it?
Do we all have to look forward to our own version of a Jonestown ending, where one minute we have life in our veins, and then the next minute fly's laying eggs in our rotting flesh?
To be continue...stupid 'updates' forcing me to shut computer down... I hate that...
To be continued..
Last Edit: Jul 28, 2015 21:24:52 GMT -5 by X factor
The Audio will break your heart, really make you think
Warning, audio of Jonestown ending is disturbing!
Warning, audio is disturbing, and real life FBI released voice of Jim Jones during his final hour death speech.
It's sad, heart breaking...
Don't listen to it if you don't think you can handle it.
I couldn't listen to it at first, but finally did, almost all of it.
It will make you very mad, upset, angry.
And if of good moral standing, will make you be extra vigilant against anyone you love, or even yourself, ever ever falling for the 'Kool-Aid'.
Always think for yourself no matter what.
Fathers, be there for you family!
Many of these cult followers felt abandoned by their own families, and you can hear some of the women saying
'Jim Jones you were the only father figure I ever had'
Sick and gross...
You're telling me the only father figure they ever had was Satan?, posing as a human?
If you're brave enough to listen to audio (which I may or may not take down later) than after hearing it I really hope it will make you a better person.
A more concerned person.
And will make you not really like dictators around the world, wherever they may be found.
May the God of love be with all the poor souls that laid their lives down for Jim Jones, who was a sadistic demon from hell.
(And notice how Jim Jones, during his final death sermon, did not once ever mention Jesus or resurrection or the bible or anything, or God outside of his own dark vision?...so very dark and creepy, who needs horror movies when you have this)
Added: Jim Jones shaking hands with San Francisco Mayor, who was assassinated one week after Jones town event.
Some bizzar stuff going on here folks.
Last Edit: Oct 22, 2016 22:27:13 GMT -5 by X factor
Black churches sometimes don't make sense to me, their foundations
Basically snatch you from Africa, destroy language, culture and family bonds, strip you of all human dignity, and then convert you to the 'God' savior of the ones 'we' worship, and use to justify all we're doing towards you.
It's like being molested, and then turning around and worshipping the 'god' of the one who molested you, the 'god' that in the mind of the one that molested you, justified it.
Makes no sense
In other words there was no 'Jesus' in the African tribal culture at the time.
If Jesus was lord of all, would not the Africans had known about him at time of capture?
I mean why would a god of love and salvation leave it up to those violating all of that, to force inject his existence onto them?
It's like being beaten up by someone, and while they're beating you up they're also saying 'Jesus saves!'.
Like saying back in 1733 'Look slaves, here's our God, and even though we don't follow him the way we should, we expect you to'.
Just makes no sense. Some things really off here about everything that most aren't willing to think about.
Sadly the more older I get, study things, history, realize how many other people, civilizations, towns, Governments have been here before me, are here now, the smaller the idea becomes that Gods love for me is the center of anything but wishful thinking.
Out of billions of people, who live far more productive lives than I do, ever will, not sure why over the years I was able to convince myself that some how Gods love would gravitate towards me.
To be religious in any form requires one to be a bit or a lot self centered
I guess to be religious in any form, you have to be a bit or a lot self centered.
In reality, I realize now I'm nothing, nada, less than zero, and matter not to a soul alive today.
Basically my existence is meaningless, and I will have changed absolutely nothing in this world, will have effected no ones destiny or outcome in any meaningful way or manner.
It's fun convincing yourself how much a divine God, creator, love 'you'. It's fun and comforting, and provides reassurance, purpose and meaning to life.
It's fun, but is it reality?
Some reasons listed below why I find it hard to believe there's one universally uniting God of Love.
1. Cause people still hate, despise you, regardless of your character, they hate and despise you on sight. If there was a all knowing God, and this God were in them, influencing them, than they would not be so hostile towards you based on external perceptions.
In other words, in order to be loved by man, you have to fit some kind of physical template, depending on what society or continent you come from. This has changed over the course of mans reign on Earth.
At one time maybe it was hot to be a young sexy Egyptian, when they dominated the world scene 1000's of years ago. And in China I'm sure it's hot to be some younger Chinese male or female steeped in tradition and promise.
Or in Africa, it's probably, or use to be, hot to be some young male prince full of promise, or some young lady following the trends of the day.
Or in the West now days, Europeans are the flavor of this era, the lighter skinned one is the more value they have to others. The lighter skinned one is, the more safe people tend to feel around them, when one is lighter skinned or white, they're almost granted instant trust in the West.
Can walk into any store and be trusted, not considered bad or suspicious until actually do something bad or suspicious. On the other hand if darker skinned, particularly of African decent, society considers you instantly bad right away, until you prove otherwise.
But again this changes depending on continent, region, culture ect.
My point is man is very flesh orientated, yet God is claimed to be spirit. Yet those who worship this spirit still are flesh orientated.
Christian 'whites' can be, have been in the past, still are, just as potentially racist as an Atheist white.
Christian Asians, protect their cultural and family lines by only allowing off spring to marry others like them, same with most peoples on Earth.
So this idea that God divine is universal and that his love effects all in the same way, to see same view point is false.
People can love each other at a distance only it seems.
And unless one has been an actually minority in either a foreign land or within their own land, it's hard to perceive that.
Love always seems abundant when living amongst own kind
And own kind can mean social kind as in class or religion, education ect.
But when removed from own kind, it's when you really get to see how people behave, when a minority in looks, beliefs, religion, color or orientation ect, is when the true nature of man can be observed.
Even a vampire will like you if it thinks you to are a vampire, but if a sheep amongst vampires, how will they behave towards you then?
Point is most only love you when they think you're just like them, this has been proven online over and over again. The age of the internet totally proves this where people only have to relate to thought, but not appearance.
Is how a male can get on dateline, say the right things, and attract other males while posing as a female.
It's how a white person can pretend to be black, say the right things, and be convincing, or how a Muslim from around the world can blend into forum or chat room by simply relating to those on there.
Yet if picture taken of many best friends online, they may all be totally different looking.
It's like you can get along with anyone until you see them, goes the new saying I just made up here.
Proof that man is, has been, and will always be a DNA based life form just like animals, who do the same thing.
But the one thing that still makes me believe man is more is that fact that some have a conscious.
I have a conscious, which prevents me from doing wrong, and if I truly didn't believe in a loving God, or that I was a reflection of that in some small way, not sure why I'd still have a strong conscious.