For some reason, my instincts has me on the side of the Nevada Rancher.
At least in principle, this idea that citizens born in their own nation have to pay 'lease' to the Feds all the time, who right now want a pay raise for themselves.
I don't view Government as 'God'...I just don't, and have long questioned it's practice of using force to force citizens to comply. Whether here, or over seas, Governments always seem to 'draw down', on people who don't comply, even if it's just over fiscal issues, money.
Watching video, with dogs, is reminiciant of the 1950's, 60's era civil rights protests, when dogs and hoses were unleashed on peaceful black demonstrators...funny how things always come around to full circle.
Why do people 'owe' the Government anything?
Just doesn't sound like a Government for the people, by the people, anymore.
Thank goodness this Rancher is a uniter instead of a divider, like Hannity is, who's interviewing him right now.
Bless this Rancher for keeping his issues 'non partisan' or 'non political'...like a true Patriot, unlike fake, false, political cronnies like Hannity who only show interests in these types of stories to promote his Profit driven talk radio rhetoric
This Rancher is the type that unites all, cause he's non political, and speaks like a regular citizen, rather than a hateful, talk radio, political type...big big difference between true patriots, and the phony kind you hear on talk radio.
Way to go Rancher...you have my support...
Hannity and others who want to politicize this, and turn it into electorial politics, get lost.
Last Edit: Apr 26, 2014 9:45:07 GMT -5 by X factor
I, as many others, can definitely support, relate, to the Rancher and his basic cause, but not sure about the ideology of some of the groups showing up to support them, not sure what kind of socially divisive side issues they'll try to layer his cause in, or associate his cause in.
The Rancher has started off with strong public support, general support, but depending on the type of people who show up there, that support may dwindle, not do to Ranchers basic fight to be free, but it would be do to odd side issues other more politically orientated groups might try to inject into the situation.
Electorial politics simply divides people, the less political something is, the more people of all stripes are able to rally behind it, like sports, it's why sports arenas are always filled to capacity, cause there's no politics involved.
Last Edit: Apr 19, 2014 0:03:38 GMT -5 by X factor
I just read this article about the Rancher, this article right >here<, and totally agree with Bundy, and the militia that support him.
Bundy asserts that him and his family have owned that land, ranched on the land, for 100 years or so, and that he doesn't remember 'signing a contract with the Feds'.
Who now charge exorborant fees designed to run Ranchers off their land, to me that's evil.
Basically it seems the 'Feds' are doing to common rural people what they did to the Indians, driving them off their land, and into cramped over populated, crime ridden cities.
To me, the Feds are bullies, any time a Government gets to big, it becomes a bully, and they come after you with guns a blazing, and throw you in jail or fine you large amounts of money, orders given out by geeky Mr Magoo Judges who think their Gods.
I'm glad that finally people have had enough of the bullying.
And I'm glad those who support Bundy, referring to militia, have kept their own personal ideologies out of it so far. And glad they recognize the Government as being a generic machine, rather than trying to blame the nature of Government on one administration or another.
Cause this issue has been going on for 20 year, and this event would have occurred regardless of who was in office.
I support them and their cause, as long as they don't politicize it, by allowing Sean Hannity types to chime in and exploit the situation for their profit driven radio shows.
I think Freedom and Liberty is something all can relate to, and that all people want, but once you start injecting electoral politics into it, people fragment and split apart.
Keep it general, keep it generic, and support will remain high.
Also, a lot of these militia members are made up of ex military types, and even ex law enforcement officers, they know their stuff, they're not dumb at all, they know and study military strategy, cause many of them once planned that strategy when they themselves worked for armed wings of the Government.
People in the cities, lazy urban types, have no idea how prepared some of these rural types are, while urban goons run around shooting each other up on the streets, Militia and quietly preparing and are prepared for and if a time should come that society collapses.
And we all saw first hand, on the news, how well prepared urban welfare types were, and even the 'thugs' couldn't survive once all infultructure broke down.
Being a pants sagging, rap listening to, gold teeth in mouth, thug type did what in this event, to help protect and provide for people? (Katrina Flood).
Absolutly nothing, the thug males, were just as helpless as the women and children, and were totally ill equipted to help anyone, not even their own families.
The Katrina flood was a blatant display of how helpless most are in the inner cities, who have had 'nature' bred out of them through generations of Government dependency.
It was a gross display of stupidity to me, males, who were so tough and violent in the hood, rendered totally useless.
But many rural types, militia types, have been preparing for such catastrophic events for decades.
They are prepared, they can hunt, fish, even their daughters can hunt and fish and use a bow, where as urban welfare mothers have had their African heritage totally bred out of them, and recreated into urban nothings.
And this goes for many, not just AA's, but also many uppity types, dizzy blondes, Ivy Leaguers and more.
Many, most, people are simply unprepared to live in a world where convience and service isn't provided to us on a constant basis by Government.
Last Edit: Apr 26, 2014 13:38:28 GMT -5 by X factor
Thank goodness this is the Twylight Zone where we have 'Time and Space' to think things out clearly without rush to self serving judgment..
Now, back to Cliven Bundy.
Before I attack anyone I like to first examine if what they said was true, or if there was any truth to it. I have that right and owe it to myself to think first, then react.
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He basically said from what he observed, that he often wondered if 'blacks' were happier, or lived more fulfilled, structured lives under slavery, compared with todays inner city, single mother, high crime ridden, gang ridden slums or projects, that have become the new reality for many.
Is that a racist comment?...NO.
It's simply an observation he had, thought, about a whole class of people whom sadly he only seems to observe in the 'slums'.
Obviously someone like Bundy, a Rancher way out in rural Nevada, probably has very minimal amount of contact with 'Blacks', like College graduates, MD's, officers, pilots, military personal, teachers, home owners, attornies ect, but none the less that's his reality, his environment, which spurned forth those comments.
The man was never running for office, so I could care the less about his personal views on social issues, we all have them, he was simply honest enough, or 'baited', to say it on record to reporter.
In fact, if you listen to talk show hosts like Limbaugh and Hannity, and Glenn Beck and Neil Bortz (retired), they get away with suggesting things far worse than what Bundy did.
Talk radio hosts are basically 'white Supremacist' who know how to use politically correct language to get across ideas a back hill Georgia type cannot.
Todays racist has to be much smarter and more tactful than old school 1960's Alabama type was.
So where am I going with this?
I could care the less Cliven Bundies personal views on socialization of former slaves, but I do care about Feds increasingly infringing on all of our rights as citizens, regardless of color.
As such, since I'm not a politician, I don't have to back track from anything.
Even if Cliven Bundy was never born, I'd still be resistant to the fact that Government is getting way to big and out of hand in how it's over regulating every ones lives, and attaching fees to everything.
And I'd still sit down and have coffee with Cliven Bundy, over some inner city thug type, who litters urban environment with single Mothers and abandoned kids.
As a person of color, I'd much rather live on Bundies Ranch, in that environment, than Down town Detroit or parts of Chicago.
Check out this video of Chicago violence, drugs, crime, shootings, so was Cliven Bundy really all that far off?
500 homocides in Chicago in 2012, slave masters and the Klan never killed that many blacks, even in the worst era of racism...and that's just one city.
Take Chicago and multiply it by 40 major cities, then multiply it by 40 decades, and the death toll is higher than Vietnam, blacks killing blacks.
How many blacks has Cliven Bundy ever killed or hurt?....zero!!
So if Cliven Bundy is 'racist' simply for having an opinion, than what or blacks who kill other blacks for actually killing and assassinating each other, and kids? (who get caught in crossfire often)
Again, here in the Twylight Zone we think, we reason first, then after long thought, civil thought, then come to whatever conclusion you feel like.
But I try to provide a fair platform for all views.
Last Edit: Apr 27, 2014 14:20:17 GMT -5 by X factor
Again, before people crack on Cliven Bundy, check out this video of hood blacks making a fool of a crack head, instead of helping him they're humiliating him...but that's not cold hearted and racist or cruel?
At least Bundy isn't out on the streets humiliating black folks, the way black folks are doing to themselves.
Almost reminds me of this Twilight Zone episode where rebel Cowboys made drunk sing for Whiskey...funny how life imitates art or the other way around.
Compare this Rod Sterling Twilight Zone episode with what street guys in above video are doing to crack head...eerie.
Last Edit: Apr 26, 2014 13:42:01 GMT -5 by X factor