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Post by X factor on Apr 24, 2014 16:34:43 GMT -5
I want to create this thread to demonstrate that common sense conservatism, and libertarianism don't have to ostracize people, groups, the way self interest talk show hosts do. There are many issues that I believe all can agree on, issues that can bring all together, without race baiting, like talk show hosts do. Talk show hosts version of 'conservatism' is basically a 'whites only' type of conservatism... I think all people of common decency and agenda, can come together on many issues that effect us all, regardless of color or nationality ect. People want to be free, people want liberty, these ideals appeal to all, not just 'white conservatives', the way talk show hosts love to frame it. And to me an example of this is Seat belt laws, where now, in many States, Officers can pull you over, intrude into your life, and write you a ticket, all for not wearing seat belt. In other words State powers, County powers, City powers, can 'rob' you of your money, to help fill their coffers, simply for not wearing a seatbelt...that's not 'freedom'. This is not what founding Fathers had in mind, where Municipalities of Government would start pulling people over, and forcebly taking their money, simply for not wearing a seat belt. Intruding all into your life, threatened at gun point, simply for not wearing a seat belt. Jacking you of your hard earned money, simply for not wearing a seat belt, sorry, but not even Russia, not even China, not even Cuba has rules like that where the Government can yank your money, invade your privacy, pull you over, simply for not wearing a seat belt. This is not freedom, and issues like these, I know most people of common sense mindset, can come together on. Unlike fake profit driven talk radio conservatism, I want to create a thread here that appeals to all people of common sense, and who love freedom, regardless of party affiliation, regardless of color, age, gender, or even religion. We all want liberty from a tyrannical Government. And in the end, the larger Governments get, the more they all start taking on the same nature, more examples to follow.
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Post by X factor on Apr 24, 2014 18:25:31 GMT -5
Now the ever controlling ruling class of Government wants to control E Cigarettes? I find this absurd!! This is evident of Government gone wild! Leave people alone, leave people be! America is suppose to be the land of the free, and Freedom means being able to make choices on your own. And Freedom means suffering the benefits and or consequences of your own decisions!! Sorry, but I just don't think founding Fathers ever intended on Government being so intrusive in peoples lives where Government now regulates E-Cigarettes. That's not Freedom, sorry but it's just not. And the people elected to these offices, who think it's their job to regulate everything under the sun, I think they're 'lost', and would be perfectly at home in North Korea assisting their leader in his control over the people. Sorry, but Government, at least not in a free nation, should not be telling people, fining people, for not wearing seat belts, or regulating E-cigarettes...that's not freedom. Freedom is choosing to live and die as you please...now either we're free or we're not, but if we're no longer free than just admit it instead of pretending we are just for slogans...
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Post by X factor on May 1, 2014 2:57:36 GMT -5
Now days people get News, investigative reporting, and political commentary, all mixed up. I'll give example of each, with following photo. 1. News Building is being demolished by city to make place for new development. 2. Investigative reporting It was found out today, that 4 residents weren't told building was being demolished, and all their belongings were in building while they were away on vacation, a law suit is pending. 3. Political commentary Do to budget cuts by the ________ administration, you can expect more building for the poor, to be demolished, and replaced by expensive Condos for the rich and wealthy, and now here as my guess Representative _______ from the 5th district of Mars. 3 basic, simple, examples of news, investigative reporting, and political commentary. a. News just covers basic information about a story, and allow you to fill in the blanks and interpit information as you see fit, station provides no fill in story. b. Investigative reporting seeks to uncover micro stories or scenerios within larger story, usually about people, how lives are effected...but absolutely no electoral politics. c. Political commentary seeks to blame, blame, and blame some more news event on political party or politician News station or radio station host or crew, is at odds with. Every single story under the sun is tied into electoral politics. On stations like this campaigning never ends, for either party, and cater to people who live, breath, sleep, electoral politics every single day of their lives, every single waking moment of their lives, politics politics politics.
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Post by X factor on May 2, 2014 17:46:54 GMT -5
For one
No minds are ever changed, no solutions ever found on these News shows panels, like 'Crossfire'.
To me, both sides end up sounding like they're dependent on Government for solutions.
And under President Obama, Rep (at least talking head tv types) say things that sound similar to Democrats under Bush.
Examples:
1. 'Black unemployment is ___% under P-Obama'
And my response is always 'ye...and?'
As with under P-Bush, that comment doesn't make any sense. There's a host of reasons why anyone person may be unemployed, and to generically lump people of various shades, backgrounds, educational levels, religions, ethics ect together, and call them 'black', to use in a statistic is totally unscientific and dumb to me, it was dumb under P-Bush, and it's dumb when done for political reasons under P-Obama.
Such a statement sets up quirky solutions and responses as follows...
a. If black unemployment is so high, than it must mean whites and others, are to racist to hire them, as such I guess President Obama should reinstate affirmative action??
Lots of people are unemployed right now, regardless of color, and before making goofy assumption their unemployed cause their 'black', one needs to look at, consider, each induvisuals reason for being unemployed, if one did that they'd probably find out it has a lot more to do with personal habits, motivation, than anything else.
That's what Conservatives always say about 'blacks' under Rep Presidents, yet under P-Obama, these same 'blacks' are some how unemployed cause he won't help them find a job.
Politics is goofy...politics makes you goofy and inconsistent if you stay in it long enough. Politics is not about solutions anymore, it's simply about 'scoring points' against your opponent.
to be continued.
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Post by X factor on May 10, 2014 15:55:26 GMT -5
I've noticed over the years that the NRA never comes to the defense of 'black' or 'minority' citizens in cases or issues where such citizens rights are stepped on by Government, or such life is loss, by Government, when such citizen is exercising their 2nd Amendment right to carry or have... As in the case of old 93 year old lady being shot in own yard, porch, in Texas a few days ago. 93 year old lady shot by cop for having gun in hand on own propertyThe NRA totally seems uninterested in cases involving 2nd Amendment when it involves minorities.. You almost get the sense that NRA views 'minorities' or 'non whites' as 'the' threat in which they're exercising 2nd Amendment against. It's as if the, 1. Government and 2. Minorities, are the main 'threat' to the well being of the majority members of the NRA, in that they never ever seem to come to the defense of minority citizens when many themselves are caught up in 2nd Amendment battles with Government. The NRA's attitude comes off as being 'Oh, they're black, Hispanic, they're not one of us, 2nd Amendment doesn't apply to them...it only applies to Good ole boy John Wayne types'. That's the perception of the NRA by many minorities since they always sit silence on issues that effect them. I guess it's the same when Fake media Conservatives like Hannity always say "Oh, where was Jessie J, and Al Sharpton when this or that occurred, why weren't they at the rally?I guess the NRA is for white folks, and Jessie, Al, and other such folks are for civil rights that effect the 10% or so of population. Although in the Past Jessie Jackson use to rally for a lot of poor Appalachian whites, living in abject poverty. I'm not saying the NRA is right or wrong in whom they feel they want to speak up for, but I am saying such perception always hurts them, or canidates they endorse come national election time.
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Post by X factor on May 14, 2014 6:20:07 GMT -5
An example of local or State civil Government going to far.
I heard on the news this morning that a Mother left mild in car, while she went in for job interview.
Someone saw, told police, who came, arrested later, and then put mild in protective custody.
Sick.
If that's the case, than half the parents in America from 1990 and back, would all be locked up, cause back in the 90's, 80's, 70's, and further on, a lot of parents did that.
There's probably not anyone over the age of say...30 or 35, who hasn't been left in car a lone while young.
But according to todays laws, such an act is criminal, and warrants mild being whisked away to some protective custody and put in the arms of a totally stranger.
That's an example of State powers gone to far...when a simple lecture would do, a lecture, warning and pamphlet.
Instead they arrest parent, who was applying for a job, steal, rob, mild away from parent, and send mild to secret protective location....Um, is this North Korea we live in?
Now the Mother will have even a tougher time of finding work with a record.
People who work for the Government don't produce anything, get automatic checks, and don't understand that regular non government citizens only get paid when they labor, and in order to get hired, need a clean record.
Yet State law enforcement seems bent on damaging as many peoples ability to get hired as possible, and then go home and complain about 'Look how lazy these people are, they just sit around'...
Ye, most sit around cause of what happened above, heavy handed tactics that impair a common persons ability to find work.
Now what's this lady suppose to do?, no job, no mild...makes no sense, all simply cause she was applying for a job and left mild inside vehicle.
If this mindset existed in the 70's or 60's, probably every parent in America would have been arrested and had their hobbits separated from them.
Government gone to far.
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Post by X factor on Jun 12, 2014 20:05:23 GMT -5
A common sense, non political conservative is not going to create hype over 5 useless pajama wearing Taliban, whom our defenses could take out easily should they get re involved in anti American tactics. A fake, cry baby, talk radio conservative, will make it seem as if 5 pajama wearing Taliban are capable of wiping out millions of Americans. Under Bush, I actually thought Conservatives were tough practical patriotic types, but under Obama, they just seem like spoiled rotten cry baby defeatest to me, at least the types you hear in the media.
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Post by X factor on Jun 13, 2014 21:27:17 GMT -5
This latest Iraq fiasco is interesting...the whole middle east is. It's as if the whole Middle East is evolving before our eyes, people changing, borders changing, revolutions taking place, before our very eyes. All current borders are 'fake' borders, drawn up by Colonial powers, back when colonial powers dominated the planet by force. It seems now these borders, or the people within them, have out grown their 'harnesses'. In the West, we're use to law and order, and State Powers having the full and final say on every ones lives. In the Middle East, they have always been guided by strong personality types, Religious leaders, Tribal leaders, ect. (As it was in Europe long ago) But the middle east can't seem to evolve past the need of religious rule, as Europe already has. It's almost like an inevidable mud slide that's destined to occur, that Western powers keep trying to hold back. Do you just stand back and allow nature to take it's course, and then deal with new landscape? Or do Western powers keep trying to contain the 'mud slide'? Seems the more the west tries to hold inevidable mud slide, that more pressure just keeps building. So should the Western powers just stand back and allow social evolution to continue as it sees fit? Usually when radicals take power, they stabilize....why do they stabilize?, cause once they take power the business of running a society pre occupies all their time. Take Cuba, Fidel, once they re took Cuba, the business of running a working Government 'stabilized' their need for conquest. (although those living under his regime obviously see it differently) but that aside, Cuba, as a nation, has never threatened expansion once Fidel took over...they've been relatively quiet for over 40 years. It's seems it's only when these nations fall, that all sorts of radical groups arise. I just don't think the West can forever continue thinking it can control how hundreds of millions of middle eastern people go about their affairs. And all these groups are being armed by nation states, underneath the table, nation states like Saudi Arabia, Iran ect. Bottom line for this post is I think it's dumb, self serving, to politicize this situation. To think that any American Administration can hold back social evolution in the middle east. They don't care about our politics over there, just as we're not guided by their policies and religious beliefs over here. I say stand back and let the chips fall where they may, see what emerges, and then deal with that, instead of constantly trying to hold back the mud slide, trying to hold back mountain that's toppling. This is not 1940 anymore, We're no longer 100 years ahead in technology and armament. As nations, people, become more technologically and militarily equal, it's becoming much harder for Western powers to convince people to 'stay in their place'. I don't blame the middle eastern situation on anyone or any party, I'm just not that stupid as to think either party can hold back world destiny. They have their destiny over there, we have ours, not sure if we can keep on defining everyone who doesn't see life our way 'terrorists'...and expect to get anywhere. I said in the past, long ago, had we allowed Saddam to invade Kuwait, and then weaken Saudi Arabia, that none of this would be occurring now. This, what we're seeing today in Iraq, is what occurs when the west keeps trying to artificially manipulate social occurances over there. The hill, the mountain, is going to collapse, whether we want it to or not, and I think we should just stand back and allow it to happen. And then deal with the pieces afterwards. Things are easier to control, once you know what you're dealing with, easier to manage. But political hacks won't understand that, instead they'll just continue blaming each other over here to score their own political points.
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Post by X factor on Jun 13, 2014 21:41:26 GMT -5
The Iraqi people wanted U.S. out, so now let them deal with the consequences
I don't think we should keep liberating ingrateful people or populations who use our troops to fight their battles, then turn on troops as soon as things stabilize.
The Iraqis begin to resent U.S. troop presents on their streets and territory, well now the troops are gone, and now their nation has been or is being invaded by troops far more brutal than U.S. troops ever were.
Now they're being invaded by troops who have no ethics, who could care the less about human rights or dignity, who care nothing about feeding the hungry, who don't have doctors and nurses that travel along to help those they wound.
If the Iraqi people were to stupid to see that the American troops were there to help them, than so be it, let them suffer the consequences.
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Post by X factor on Jun 14, 2014 11:35:14 GMT -5
Welcome home Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl.
Get some rest and recover.
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Post by X factor on Jun 18, 2014 16:32:01 GMT -5
Common sense conservatism says
1. Let the chips fall where they may in the middle east.
2. Middle East ideologies, only go after U.S. cause U.S. has history of 'butting in', manipulating out comes, propping up dictatorship regimes, who go on to commit gross injustices against those they rule over.
3. U.S. keeps self in scope of terrorist, cause we're always interfereing in their affairs.
4. Terrorist don't hate the freedom enjoyed by America, what they hate is when we interfere and supply arms to groups, and under mind their out come.
5. To right wingers, it would be like China supplying arms and ammo to Democratic party to over throw GOP.
Soon right wingers would grow to resent China for interfering.
6. When Powers take over, they eventually have to stabilize and govern.
7. If people over there want to be 'islamic'...short of declaring war on Islam, what can we do about it? Either declare Iraq the 51st State, or just let social nature take it's place.
8. Iraqi's wanted American troops out, now they beg for their protection again...they need to make up their minds.
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Post by X factor on Jun 18, 2014 17:34:38 GMT -5
Since when do Harry Potter types get to become Press Secretaries of the most powerful nation on Earth??I mean come on, is the White House now hiring members cast members of Harry Potter, and calling them qualified enough to vet questions for U.S.? Geeks, are now representing the U.S.A...wow. Guys you would shred in high school, college, are now given very powerful important posts on Capital Hill...wow. And all these Pres Secretaries, whether Rep or Dem, always seem to quit mid term, rebel, and write 'tell all books'. Amazing how things work in this world...
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Post by X factor on Jun 19, 2014 21:14:37 GMT -5
The Kardashians mean absolutely nothing to me...
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Post by X factor on Jun 21, 2014 14:48:21 GMT -5
Fake war drum, WA DC/Fox News type entertainment Conservatives love to manipulate peoples emotions by saying 'Oh well gee, if ISIS is allowed to spread, they'll become a direct threat to the U.S. and bomb us, uh...so well, erh, we need to send in bombs and attack...ye, attack them with some bombs and that'll make all our problems go away......ye ok... The last thing we need is to create a whole new generation of anti American families over in the middle east. When we drop those bombs, whom do you think they're killing? These bombs kill Uncles, brothers, sons, friends, grand sons, ect...they kill many people, and for each person killed, 20-30 more rise up do to outrage. Right now, if you notice, none of these ISIS people or anyone else is crying any anti America sentiment. Read that again, that's very important (don't ignore that). And they reason why they aren't is cause they have much more pressing things to worry about right now, the U.S. being the least of them. Until, as Fox News types suggest, we attack....then once we attack the we once again put all the focus on us. We drop a few bombs, kill hundreds of people, then they spend the next 20 years seeking revenge. This has got to stop, and we need to but out of places we don't belong...watch, observe, advise, but we must quit making ourselves the targets of all groups around the world by constantly fighting other Governments fights. It's why these groups don't ever cry out against Canada or China or Mexico or Japan, cause they don't but in. Let the freagin U.N. handle this situation...isn't situations like this what the U.N. was designed for? I say send in the U.N....after all what are they being paid for? This would be a perfect moment for the United nations and their blue helmet foot soldiers to do some good in the world. I will continue with this them in next post.
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Post by X factor on Jun 26, 2014 19:03:36 GMT -5
When will talk radio, ideologue type Conservatives wake up and realize that money and power trumps 'ideology'? Money and gold, is what makes the world go round, not 'ideology'...ok I hate seeing dense, talk radio educated GOP types actually believe that changing politicians will actually improve their lives any...waiting on that one Conservative politician to get elected, whom they believe will change the world around... Wake up!Those days are long gone Money, gold, and power, is what makes this world go round today, not the Tea Party, not ideologues, not even talk radio hosts, who themselves love money power and gold, and aquire such by emotionally manipulating their dense fans. Ideology, sad to say, doesn't pay bills, or get anyone rich. Making deals with global corporations does however, make people, politicians rich, not Joe blow from Cornfield Arkansas who's against gay marriage. That makes for good talk radio chatter, but gets no one rich. Wake up! Ideologues don't pay politicians or get them rich, rich global, Saudi Arabian Princes do....wake up fools! and... Wake up fools, quit allowing politicians to play you, or better yet quit allowing dishonest talk radio hosts to play you...
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