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Post by X factor on Jul 26, 2015 14:09:32 GMT -5
In reality most people today are political Platypuses Yes, in reality most are political Platypuses, in that everyone is an individual. Political parties are more like coalitions these days, not cloned copies of people who believe exact same thought on every issue. There are some 'Conservatives' or people who consider themselves as such, who look like biker outlaw types... There are people like this who consider themselves 'Conservatives'...but to someone else, say a Wall Street conservative, if saw this biker, would automatically consider them a liberal. And Vice versa...that's why I always say blind generic labels don't translate well into real life. Makes for good talk radio banter, but doesn't translate well into the reality of things, and how complicated most people really are. One day people will realize this whole 'left vs right' crap is a farse. At least on the street level. At least on the working class level. The Zone is never wrong.
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Post by X factor on Jul 31, 2015 18:31:19 GMT -5
Abortion, planned parenthood
First off I don't expect everyone to agree with what follows.
But feel I must share opinion on both since all up in headlines lately.
So lets get to it.
1. How do I feel about abortion?
I think it's sick.
2. How do I feel about planned parent hood?
Not sure how people with souls and a conscious could work there and suck babies out of another human.
Sorry, I just couldn't do it, goes against my saving nature.
I can't destroy life like that.
But on another note...I can't, won't and don't politicize my views on abortion.
In other words I'm not a partisan pro life type.
I'm pro life cause of God, cause of decency, not because I hate Obama, or hate democrats or hate this or that.
I'm not 'Pro life' just to prove how 'down' I am with Conservatives.
I'd be pro life 500 years ago (assuming born the same person I am now).
My being pro life has nothing to do with ratings driven media hosts, Fox, Rush, or any other political hack.
I'm pro life because it's the right way to be, and trumps, or transcends all political ideology to me.
To me it's just gross to destroy innocent life, whether a baby inside a wound or a Lion minding it's own business in the wild, shot with an arrow just for sport.
Political hacks make it seem as if you have to be for one or against another.
Common sense says you can be against both.
Common sense doesn't measure right vs wrong based on what ones perceived political enemy thinks.
I think abortion is sick and gross.
And I also think shooting, killing, animals for sport is sick and gross.
I don't approve of neither.
Would never engage in neither.
But slimy talk radio hosts make it seem as if for one, must be against the other.
But thankfully most people don't derive their logic or sense from talk radio hosts who just say things to generate ratings.
Here in the zone you only get basic honest thought, your own.
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Post by X factor on Aug 2, 2015 7:54:54 GMT -5
America is like one big gigantic baby sitter that takes care of so many people whom otherwise would sink or would have sunk so very long ago. Most people can't acknowledge that out of pride. But it's true, whether a born citizen, or one who fled home nation to get here, America is a big gigantic baby sitter that allows many to thrive, to exist in relative peace and calm, who would not otherwise be allowed to.
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Post by X factor on Aug 2, 2015 8:20:36 GMT -5
Chris Christie just said there's not enough law enforcement to track down and send 11 million illegal Aliens back homeTo that I say there's the military!National guard ect. Sure there's enough resources to round up and drive out all illegals, if Government really wanted to do so. So don't buy into this idea that U.S. lacks man power to drive out whomever it doesn't want to be here. U.S. doesn't lack anything rather Government lacks will power do to being so over saturated by special interests...
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Post by X factor on Aug 7, 2015 15:45:09 GMT -5
Unlike ratings driven talk radio hosts I refuse to insult readers by blaming all the worlds issues on one man, on one elected man.
Nor will I say President has 'ruined the world', the way certain reckless talk radio hosts do simply for ratings, who think their audience is stupid.
I realize, cause I'm honest, that not every ones lives evolve around electoral politics, and that for the most part people determine their own fate, happiness, joy, sadness, by the decisions they make in own lives, by company they choose to keep and so on.
If one has a wonderful family, good friends, the world will always seem like a bright place, even if Satan was President.
Rational people understand that.
But I think talk radio hosts like Savage and others, tend to appeal to irrational people, who love focusing on dark things, and blaming others for hypothetical stuff that doesn't even effect their own lives.
Where as the zone tries to appeal to the rational, and mentally balanced in this section.
7 years is 7 years, and many talk radio hosts in radio and commentators on Fox, have robbed many of 7 glorious years of happiness and joy by continually keeping them mired in negative news about the world under President Obama.
7 years that can never be gotten back, wasted in a doom and gloom state of mind that talk radio hosts have injected into their audiences.
Like a cult leader would do or something.
Even many Christians have fallen for this trap, and instead of getting joy from the Lord, who shines in the hearts of good men and woman, have instead been brainwashed by negative ratings driven secular radio hosts to instead feel doom and gloom every day simply cause they do.
How selfish.
Day to day happiness is not derived from any elected leader, day to day happiness and purpose has to come from your own meaning of life, and if that meaning of life is rooted in cable news networks...well, good luck.
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Post by X factor on Aug 10, 2015 13:02:24 GMT -5
Turned on Rush and Glenn Becks radio shows, felt like vomiting after a few seconds of listening to their usual nation dividing rhetoricAfter hearing what real people, working people, people on the streets, white, black, red, brown ect, after feeling their pulse, then tuning into Rush and Beck and Hannity and the usual pasty fake phony media bred conservatism, I just felt like barfing. I felt like barfing cause they're so out of touch with common people out here on the streets, they're so insulated, so trained to say only what they think imaginary base wants to here, that they just sound plastic. All they do is divide people on their shows, all they do is make believe whites and blacks are separated, they make believe and highlight new clips that make it same all whites, blacks, Indians ect, are all separated. They lump, generically lump large invented groups together and pit these invented groups against on another on their shows. It's so far off base it made me want to vomit today when I tuned in. Where as Trump simply captures the common thread that runs through all, talk radio hosts, like ugly spiders weaving a web, deliberately spin web to favor their ratings driven DNA. They are so out of touch. All they do is label this group, that group, but in real life, one who talks to all, I see no such divides exists, and that people unite around common causes. But talk radio makes it seem as if 'All Democrats are this' or that 'All Republicans are this'...instead of just realizing their people. And so they end up acting, behaving, just like Megyn Kelly of Fox, totally full of their own ignorance. Never taking calls from real people, instead only taking calls from carefully crafted screened folks whom they can either make a fool of or whom will either worship them blindly. We need more people like Trump, who can unite various factions, rather than sit on stupid talk radio show all day dividing factions. It's why people are fed up. Trumps Republicanism resignates with many, cause he's like a fumigator that goes into house and drives out all the phony bolonis on all sides. Nation needs more people like him to run for office who are self financed!
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Post by X factor on Aug 11, 2015 13:28:43 GMT -5
I don't like political stamps and labels
To me if one lives a 10 commandments centered life, one doesn't need a political label.
I listen to Rush and others on the radio and they remind me of the last 12 years or longer of the establishment class that people are sick of, that never got anything done, and continue to artificially divide citizens based on 1950's labels and political templates.
I mean what do you call someone who.
1. Smokes weed, yet is against abortion?
2. I gay, yet admires Ronald Reagan?
3. Respects President Obama, yet disagrees with his policies?
4. Has long hair, drinks a lot, parties, yet believes in lower taxes and second amendment?
I could go on and on and on..point I'm trying to make is todays person can't always be conviently fit into any one political category.
A person, like post above, today may be more like a political platypuses
A mixture of a lot of different social and political traits.
Shows like Limbaugh's don't see that, and keep people divided who really aren't over silly surface labels, where as someone like Donald Trump appeals to all.
Trump doesn't care who you are, how you dress what you smoke or drink, his message just resignates with all, unites a common thread in all.
But show's like Hannity, Savage, Limbaugh broadcast still from the dark ages, make it seem as if there's still distinct political groups.
Maybe on the Hill there is, maybe in D.C. there is, but out here in Realville (which Rush claims to be) it's nothing like that.
Rush knows nothing about Realville anymore, he, like others in his class, simply surround selves with like minded thinking people for decades.
So there since of reality isjaded.
Their radio shows are so 1980's, and is why fewer and fewer can relate, is why over all listenership keeps dropping.
The come from the era of big establishment class politics, and don't realize how much more diverse the pool of people is today.
There are people who on the surface look very conservative, but are very liberal, then there are people who look very liberal on the surface who are hardcore conservatives on the inside...like Ted Nugent.
Talk radio fails to see this, and instead deliberately keeps people divided by using 1950's template labels.
I realize they need to do this in order to maintain relevance to their audience, the same way they always accuse civil rights leaders always needing civil strife to maintain relevance to their base as well.
It's all a racket.
Rush and them aren't interested in hearing what real people have to think.
You only get through on the radio if
1. You call in to worship host, start crying, become teary eyed and drop gushy compliments
2. You're so dumb and dense, screener let you through just so radio host can make jack azz of you.
But if you're just a regular common sense type, there's no value in your call.
One thing stupid talk radio hosts won't say is that the reason why Trumps number keep soaring or maintaining is cause he unites all, he brings all together, different coalitions.
Where as self serving talk radio hosts do just the opposite, Rush and the rest are determined to make sure the masses don't come together and solve things (just like the establishment), for if people came together, solved things, made nation strong again, talk radio would be relegated to the basement or attic.
Notice the only ones who have continued to prosper under all and any administrations are these whiney pretend talk radio hosts?
The more strife, the more money they make, the more they can sell books and convince audience how badly they're needed.
It's all so fake.
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Post by X factor on Aug 12, 2015 15:14:21 GMT -5
What media Conservatives discuss on shows vs what Corn Field Conservatives discuss in real lifeMedia Conservatives, talk radio, Fox correspondence, ect, seem to always in unison discuss certain issues over and over again, where as I notice Cornfield Conservatives don't ever bring these issues up, or be concerned about them in real life, some examples. Media Conservatives, love rehashing Hillary Clintons email scandal over and over and over again. Cornfield Conservatives could really care the less about Hillary or her emails. Media Conservatives love focusing on ISIS threat, terrorist threats. Cornfield Conservatives are more concerned about domestic criminal threats from thieves and robbers, gangs, ect. Cornfield Conservatives seem to be more concerned with what's right there in front of them, issues that they can see, touch, that effect their lives daily, like pay, foreign immigration,the character of their neighbors, safety while at home and so forth. All I'm saying is I notice the meat and potatoes working class conservatives of the heartland aren't all 'prissy' like talk radio hosts, who focus on tabloid conservatism for TV ratings. Fox covers what CNN covers what talk radio hosts cover what MSNBC covers, and people wonder why nothing ever changes. Or I should say Conservatives wonder why nothing ever changes, and why Donald Trump is so popular now. Trump speaks to a lot of the every day meat and potato's type of conservatives, and democrats as well, and others who normally don't even care about politics. Heartland Conservatives just like to drink bear and have fun like everyone else, and come in many different stripes, styles and personalities. But on TV you'd think all Conservatives were suit and tie wearing types, like Romney or something, and filthy rich. Nope. Most are just common working people, just like most of those registered as Democrat. Both work side by side daily, in factories (what are left of them), warehouses, Wal-Mart, cashiers, airport workers, Fire rescue, sanitation workers, ect. common people aren't at all that different. Trump appeals to these types, so does Ted Cruz to an extent and a few others. But Trump appeals to a broader band of people and personalities for some reason, cause he's sloppy and imperfect like most, and people can relate to that.
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Post by X factor on Aug 17, 2015 20:37:48 GMT -5
(From another section on here, but kind of felt it could also fit in here as well) Supposed right wing talk radio host as much to blame for nothing getting done in Capital as so called 'Establishment', cause they're one in the same!A.M. talk radio, owned by supposed Conservative commentators, yet nothing ever changed either under Obama or Bush. These talk radio hosts are as much as the glued on establishment class as Trump is now exposing. And if not for Donald Trump running for office this time around, nothing would have ever changed. And they continue to talk about useless non policy issues like Hillary's email, every show exactly like the next, stupid issues like this, while nothing on policy ever changes! I mean look at the usual general politicians talk radio hosts like Rush, Hannity, Levin and the rest chose for you. 1. Mark Arubio... 2. Graham 3. Walker And the rest, personalities born and bred of talk radio hosts! Yet totally unelectable!! Talk radio hosts have spent the last 8 years grooming politicians who are totally un electable! And instead of them uniting all people like Trump does, all they do is split and divide people, citizens, by constantly using labels like 'The left' or 'Liberals'...while all the while it was their own establishment comrades in D.C. that were screwing everyone! Using this false 'The left' and 'The liberals' narrative to throw heartland conservatives off the trail of their own treachery. (talk radio hosts are as clueless as the establishment they have enabled for decades!) Talk radio hosts are useless, totally out for self, for ratings, for own individual brands. All they do is divide common people from one another by ostracizing folks, surgically dividing common citizens from one another with insulting political names and labels. Where as Donald Trump just speaks the truth and invites all to join him, to rally behind him period, regardless of political labels. Talk radio hosts are trash to me, now, and will be trash to me tomorrow, cause their aim was never to actually help things change (and is why it never did), their aim is, was, will always be to simply build up audience for their own radio ratings, and financial security. They're full of sh_t. And I've known this for a long time. Trump is a modern day hero, talk radio hosts are like the venders Jesus drove out of his temple who were collecting money and exploiting people who really wanted to find out the truth about matters. (from another section on here)
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Post by X factor on Aug 17, 2015 21:39:34 GMT -5
If Government kicked out all 11 million plus illegal trespassers, I'd have no problem with that, wouldn't care how much money it cost.
Immigrants, like Donald Trump says, treat native born Americans like we're stupid, use own Constitution against 'us', like we're stupid.
Yet when here they have no love, no like, towards native born citizens.
Just go to any area with heavy immigrant population, once here they could care the less about Americans, American tradition, or it's people.
And many Hispanic immigrants from Mexico are very hostile and racist towards native born blacks, and other people of color.
They bring over a certain death cult racism that makes the Klan seem nice.
I say kick them all out, just like they do in their own Countries.
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Post by X factor on Aug 17, 2015 23:10:11 GMT -5
Another talk radio host lie that allowed immigration to get so out of hand, that's coming out now, that I've always known, and that is that illegal immigrants come over here to vote.
BS
They come over for a variety of reasons, many to work, as they're lured over by companies that hire them, then word gets out...Construction crews, farm labor, and a lot more now days.
Again, point the hand at Democrats and 'liberals', all the while getting screwed over by all these businesses that were hiring illegal immigrants for labor or work visas. (and like Donald Trump says, lobbyist of these companies would pay them to look the other way)
Talk radio hosts are dishonest snakes, and their rhetoric has provided cover for the establishment for decades, and you wonder why year after year after decade of talk radio never changed a thing.
Wake up and see who's really pulling your leg.
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Post by X factor on Aug 19, 2015 20:59:24 GMT -5
Hillary
First off, this site doesn't say things for ratings, for glam, for response, cause there is none, just views.
As such thoughts expressed are a lot more pure, cause there's nothing to gain from being either right or wrong.
With that I must say the following about how Conservative media keeps responding to Hillary Clinton.
I'm worried in that there's always a threshold between fair pickings, and bullying.
I actually do, at this point, want Donald Trump to win, I think a lot of people do, it would be the most exciting thing to occur in the world in a very long time.
Good or bad, people simply thirst for active change, a wildcard per say.
(Not President Obamas type of change within the system, but an outsider type of change)
With that being said, a part of me worries that the Conservative TV, talk radio media could blow this chance for Donald if they don't lay off of Hillary.
She's already dying in the polls on her own, Trump is swooping all the attention away from her.
But it's the Conservative media that keeps her name out there in the publics mind, day in and day out all talk radio hosts do (all 20+ of them), all they do over and over again is keep Hillary's name front and center and in the news.
And I'm telling you that could come back to bite them, us, if they're not careful.
But like I've said in the past, they, talk show hosts, don't care, you'll soon see how selfish they are, in that all they want is ratings, regardless of whom it hurts, even if it costs Donald Trump the election, cause all that means to Rush, Hannity, Levin, Savage, Dr Bennet and all the rest is 'more ratings'.
They know more people will tune into their shows should Donald Loose or drop out or should Hillary win.
They, talk radio media, will simply tap into that anger with more useless partisan hackery, show spoofs, meaningless interviews, meaningless panels, and so forth, and things will simply carry on as usual.
Nothing will get done in D.C. and people will continue to call into shows complaining, crying, saying how nations best days are behind it.
Their ratings will go up, they'll sell more books, charge more for radio/TV adds, and buy larger jets and houses for themselves, all the while saying 'Oh, I feel your pain folks, I'm Limbaugh/Hannity/Levin/ect, and oh how I, we, feel your pain, please tune in tomorrow for the next show'
They don't care who wins, to be honest, it won't effect their finances at all.
And like they accuse Jessie and Al Sharpton of needing strife in order to thrive, talk radio hosts are the exact same way.
If listeners realize we all have a common thread of morality that goes beyond partisan labels, then their roles as nation splitting partisan radio hosts will diminish.
If Trump is elected, their roles will diminish...as Trump tends to unite, he tells the truth we all want to hear without all the partisan rhetoric.
Trump doesn't waste time talking about P-Obama or 'how bad liberals are' or always saying 'The left is this or that', Trump just lays down his plans, says what most Americans feel, and moves on.
And that appeals to many, many who are hurting and just need a strong, sensible leader again, or maybe for some, it would be the first time.
Now back to Hillary, my fear is if these gimmicky talk radio hosts come down to hard on Hillary, that many will feel sorry for her, in their eye's she'll suddenly become a victim of Government rather than one who ran Government.
And unwittingly talk radio hosts may re activate her campaign if people see her as being the victim of 'Dominant white male affliction'.
That's how they'll pitch it. And if so it will appeal to peoples fears, not senses, and they'll come out for Hillary.
At this stage I really wish Rush and the rest of them would just vanish until election was over, so that people wouldn't associate Trump with the talk radio brand of Conservatism.
I wish they would vanish until election was over.
If not vanish than I wish they'd lay off of Hillary for a while and quit giving her all this free publicity, I mean every day, on every show, all it is is Hillary this, Hillary that.
But the way the mind works, all people are hearing is 'Hillary', that's how the subconscious mind works.
And the longer Conservative media drags this out, the more free advertising and exposer they're giving to Hillary.
But they don't care, they do not care.
President Obama winning has been one of talk radios greatest gifts, so how much more of a gift do you think it'll be if Hillary wins?
Talk radio hosts are very selfish, their shows are businesses, nations within themselves, and as long as there's a need for their shows, they could care the less about how rest of nation fairs.
If they really cared about nation, they would ignore Hillary all together, and she would just fade on her own.
Rush, Hannity and the rest are keeping her politically alive.
Just listen to how many times all of the talk radio shows will mention her name tomorrow.
The same useless talk radio hosts who allowed President Obama to get elected twice.
Be careful who you think your friends are as they've ran interference on the establishment class for the last 20 + years all the while conviently blaming it on 'Dem dern Liberals'.
To me they are wretched, and all they do is help themselves.
And if Trump looses this race, or Hillary begins to surge near the end, as rhetoric ramps up, just remember this post.
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Post by X factor on Aug 25, 2015 15:13:46 GMT -5
Trumps Candidacy brings out different traits in various talk radio hosts
I want to start off with Glenn Beck, cause his show, his crew of radio announcers, seem to have a particular dislike of Donald Trump, and use their shows platform to slam the man at every juncture.
It's like a talk radio host who produces nothing accept over the air rhetoric, vs a business tycoon who when dead, will leave behind structures, and enough money for family to survive on for 1000 years.
Beck seems to think he's a school teacher, and routinely lectures his audience about 'the Constitution', Federalists papers, ect.
Glenn is stuck on labels, example, progressive, liberal, Conservative, Rep/Dem ect.
Where is Donald Trump is more focused on saving the nation so that there will still be a sovereign nation in which to quibble about the above.
I observe Beck has lost touch with the average working class person out here, manual labor type, Port worker type, truck driver, ect.
The types who see the destruction first hand on the front lines, and the type Trump resignates the most with.
Trump is like a general wanting to lead his troops into battle.
Beck is more like the bugler who just wants to wake people up, but than after that do nothing.
Donald Trump wants to save the ship from sinking, Glenn Beck wants the ship to be orderly and proper while it's sinking
Point is is when a nation is on the brink of fiscal ruin, being ran by globalist who want to break apart the sovereignty of U.S., that's when such a nation needs someone who can save it, get it back on proper financial footing.
And sorry, but talk radio quibbling over the definition of Federalists papers, or who's more of a Constitutionalist than this or that guy, has nothing to do with trade deals with corrupt nations, has nothing to do with a candidate being able to resist the influence of donors, lobbyist, who then end up hi-jacking agenda of Presidency.
What insulated Beck doesn't get is the people, forces, that want to diminish this nation could care the less whether or not the person, elected officials, are Federalists, capitalists, socialists, Dems or Rep's, all that matters not to them, zero.
What matters is that whoever they helped get elected return the favor once in office.
And is why nothing ever changes no matter what party reigns cause it's all a rouge.
Glenn Beck can afford to nit pic over how a candidate is labeled, cause Beck has made it, fiscally he has made it, is not effected by day to day common things dock worker is, or border patrol is, or factory worker is.
Out here in Realville, people can't afford to nit pic over meaningless details when swarms of immigrants hostile to America are coming in, when Corporations are leaving by the dozens weekly, paying no taxes, then sending products back to America for consumers to buy who are now jobless cause they left.
Again, Beck isn't effected by none of this, he doesn't make his money through labor, he makes his money through rhetoric on the radio.
In closing this post, I don't care about labels, don't care who the technician is that arrives at door to fix the plumbing, as long as they fix the plumbing.
And that's how I feel about Trump, or any other candidate, as long as they can fix the plumbing and stand up to the dark seedy underworld billionaire class that runs things behind the scenes, than I'm willing to give them the chance.
The other candidates haven't a shot at it, they're to poor, to dependent on donors, as such once in office, like all the rest, all their campaign pledges will get tossed out the window and both parties will continue to blame each other for why things don't get done, when Trump has been telling us why they don't get done for the last month or so.
People just don't listen to what the man is saying.
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Post by X factor on Sept 7, 2015 18:12:57 GMT -5
Short post do to time limitations, will elaborate laterNotice how all the talk radio hacks picked, prepped, a bunch of doomed from the beginning losers to run for President? Rubio, Huckabee, Cruz, ect...none of them register with general public...none! They're all a bunk of talk radio Frankenstein's, destined to loose and get smeared during GOP primaries. And if not for Trump, no one would even be talking about GOP candidates. They picked a bunch of GOP losers for you, people who have no chance in hell of winning general population...yet you trust these talk radio hacks!!But what do they care, cause they love profiting off of your pain, more books to sell for them, better ratings for them, as they pretend to care. Some of you get it, others are to weak to understand. Trump, Donald Trump was the first peoples champ to rise up in a very long time!And what did RNC do?, they castrated him by making him sign pledge, a Link Devils pack. Most are to dense to understand what I'm expressing, but those who are not...there's more to follow..cause your voice is here.
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Post by X factor on Sept 15, 2015 21:45:52 GMT -5
Let me explain some things about Trumps popularity and surge, the way only the zone canThe number one reason why people are flocking to Donald Trump is because people have confidence in his ability to get things done. And number 2, because he's the only candidate to properly identify the issues that are plaguing this nation and it's very existenceTrump wants to save or recover the plane (nation) before it crashesThe other candidates only want to re arrange articles inside of plane while it's crashing, put have no plan, or power, or insight to prevent plane from crash course into ground. Examples of what I mean. Other candidates want to, talk about...(yawn) 1. By gash I'll lower taxes...yawn 2. By gash I'll end common core...yawn...plane, nation still headed towards destruction. 3. I'm against abortion...(ye so what, there's not a thing you can do about it, so it's a waste of time to always talk about it and won't save nation from fiscal doom and or cultural ruin) 4. I'm for gun rights, (another talk radio generated ratings buzz) 5. I believe in the Constitution, I'm against welfare...(yawn) Sorry, but none of these issues will save the nation, change anything, or help anyone on the ground. There all just talk radio, Fox News panel, CNN panel Sunday news show discussions and or sham issues designed to deflect peoples attention from the raping of nation that's going on by foreign entities and globalist who are sucking the very life blood out of nation, so that in 200 years or less, won't be a nation as we know it today, rather will be more like an empty continent like Africa use to be, and largely still is. Trump is the only candidate to properly identify issues that are sinking nation and that must be addressed immediately, and people who say 'He says nothing' are people who are tone deaf, cause most other people certainly hear what he's saying at every rally. And that is American is being exploited and ripped off at every juncture, and it's being facilitated by the politicians who are all running for office now, and who are owned by lobbyist and special interest.In other words they're all owned! I've known this forever, but recently Rush, Laura I, and a few others finally admitted this cause Trump is forcing the discussion. Most elected politicians are powerless to change anything, and are simply given a few social issues to dabble and play with to appease the people. But behind the scenes blood suckers are sucking life out of nation, which includes flooding shores with immigrants who are changing the nature of the nation. Anyways, it's late, I'll continue later in more concise way, didn't mean to drift so much.
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