IRAQ

U.S. citizens thinking about going to Syria/Iraq to join foreign fighters, it could be one way trip

With the rash of recently killed American fighters in Syria and Iraq, it should make one pause before going over there...

I mean like a gang, who's to say once there, they'll allow you 2 return alive?

Once there, once you learn all their secrets, where there bases are and other intel, why would top field commanders let someone from the States just return back home?

What if as soon as one started showing interest in 'returning home' then person becomes 'marked'..and only a matter of time before disposed of by own side, but made to look like came from opposition.

Seems like ISIS recruits like all militaries, and play heavily on the young and dumb.
But just like in U.S. or any other Government military, once in action it might not be all it's cracked up to be...but at least in most Western militaries when times up it's up, and you can resign.

But like a gang, not sure if one can ever truly resign from terrorist organization...cause once allowed in, you probably learn stuff that if shared could hurt them.

If you're fighting for, with, people, an organization that is 'bad' and ruthless, and shows no mercy, why would one expect them to show mercy on them when they realize 'I don't want to be here anymore?'

I doubt they do, and can't just see ISIS letting, or allowing Western fighters from Brit or America to just casually leave when they've had enough.

That's not how ruthless regimes operate.

They pretty much want you there until you're dead, or in their minds they win.

And could see them sending Western gullable types on the most dangerous missions, instead of sending their own.

Basically disposable fighters who if they die in battle...'Oh well, they were American anyways'.

Kind of like the Italian mob, or any other crime organization, you can't just leave when you feel like it.

Young people from the West who think life in the desert, being shot at is fun, are nieve, and are only responding to headline clips of triumphant militia marching into small towns with machinge guns in the air.

Like a movie trailer or something where often the trailer is the best part of the movie, and it goes down from there.

Not sure how wise it is to pledge alliance with any group that simply sees you as a disposable piece of meat.

CNN's news panel just asked question to audience 'What drives members of ISIS to such violence'.



It's you're panel of so called 'experts' that drives people mad, that every night, both Fox and CNN and all the other major news outlets have on as rotating guests.

And it's insulting to the masses, it really is, that these news shows think 'Experts' can actually speak for millions or know more about 'the streets' or how people are feeling in the streets than the actually people 'in the streets'...

It's this constant feeling of always being 'marginalized' 'reduced in value', not taken seriously, that collectively enrages so many.

But usually it's only the social fringe that actually reacts in a physical manner, cause they have nothing to loose and much to gain if they're successful.

This idea that we all need 'a expert', who lives behind Mansion wall or in gated community, to tell us about why we behave the way we do is absurd and insulting.

If you have to learn it from a book or classroom, than you're in no position to tell others what it's about.

If you want to know about ISIS, than go interview them...if you want to know about gangs, than go actually interview actually person in gang.

And so forth, don't have panel members from Harvard telling us, the viewers, what's really on their minds or what causes them to do what they do.

People are tired of being 'cut out', left on the outside, and groups like ISIS, gangs, outlaw organizations ect, have a very empowering effect on people, exspecially younger ones left outside the system.

It's the exact same emotional appeal athletic teams have to young athletes, or the military, or sororities, it gives them a sense of purpose and belonging where they just couldn't find it anywhere else.

And the very guests you have on you're shows are the very types who when not on show, hold their noses up to others do to their 'status'.

It's that separation...but you don't get it or ever will.

I wrote weeks ago, in above posts, that ISIS wasn't a threat to U.S. homeland, now CNN has on so called 'Experts mirroring the thoughts here!

This is why I can't stand the media and those who work in it..everything I say on here, they always repeat 1-4 weeks later, yet never acknowledge the broad knowledge base of the 'Zone'.

Instead they prop up their own colleagues instead.

Pat each other on the back for 'knowing so much', when they absolutely do not!

For weeks I've been saying ISIS is not a threat to U.S. homeland and that it would work against their interest to attack U.S.

Then today, on CNN, so called expert mirrors exactly what has been expressed on here, and they're looked at as being so wise and keen...BS!!

This is how the privileged class stays in power by locking brilliant people out, who didn't go to their Ivy league schools.

I had it right way before this so called 'expert' did who knows nothing about the streets or real life away from gated communities!!

10's of 1000's more are fixing to die over in Iraq do to war, and I just don't feel good about it.

Seems like after every Western driven war or conflict over there, something uglier emerges from the ashes, worse than that which was put down.



Something uglier
always emerges
after each conflict
over there.

Someone just asked me 'Do you want to kill ISIL?, and if not why?

As part of some poll or something.

My response was and is, is that ISIL is not a direct threat to me right now, they're not the ones holding me back from prospering, as such I have nothing personally against them.

The things, powers, system, that holds me back, that makes me labor in vain, has nothing to do with ISIL.

The people who hurt me on a daily basis, are not ISIS members.

What hurts me is a system of low wage and high prices, and those who maintain that, so that you wake up, go to work, labor hard, yet get no where.

The people who control, maintain that system, are the ones who hurt me and who are slowly killing me, not ISIS.

Why ISIS continues to make gains, while driving off better equipped militaries



First off the experts don't know nothing, neither do news commentators on Fox and CNN or any other channel.
They sit and make comments about others, other cultures, from their Ivy league lives, while the very people they consider 'simpletons' are the very ones taking over territory that normal society rejected and relegated to sweeping floors as a Janitor at some fancy Hotel for tourists.

Experts on TV don't know sh_t, and have never lived 'sh_tty' lives, as such don't understand how the underclass and deprived think and or operate.

Now back to the title of this post..Why does ISIS seem to thrive when organized militaries fighting them seem to fold and collapse?

1. ISIS fighters have been freed from their cages and have a much more relaxed command structure.

ISIS fighters are able to fight without first having to shift through layers and layers of commanders and politicians who all have different directives and fighting for votes back home.

With ISIS the directive is clear and simple...fight, fight to win at all costs...period.

In other words ISIS keeps it simple, and simple is better for the type of warfare they're waging.

2. Most ISIS fighters feel a sense of desperation in that either they win, or be persecuted, tortured if they do not. (retreat is not really a option with ISIS fighters)

In other words ISIS fighters really have no where to retreat to, so they're literally fighting for their lives at that exact moment.
ISIS is not the type of organization where if a fighter gets tired or looses heart, can just take 'Leave', and go on vacation.

As such the ground fighters know that if they loose, enemy will get them, if they quit, ISIS will get them...so they fight out of desperation, which can be seen in how they battle.

(Some could even be on drugs the way Somalis were when they fought American troops in the streets back in the 90's..(black hawk down).

3. ISIS fighters aren't slowed down by any moral compass.

4. They're simply having fun. (a Ivy leaguer won't understand this)
(Actually Ivy leaguers do understand the concept of 'fun' only they do it through fiscal conquest, buying out another bank, foreclosing on homes to make a profit, and other such white collar activities, Ivy leaguers love conquest also, they just do it within a system that rigged for them)

That may bother some, but unlike the soldiers they're fighting, the ISIS fighters just seem to be having fun, like it's a sporting event or something, a football game ect.
(Things are happening quick which adds to their excitement)

In contrast when you look at coalition forces, it just seems like a paid job to them, no excitement, nothing, poor pay, low level in society, so there's really no 'fun' factor to it...

The ISIS fighters know that when they win, they're elevated to lofty positions, play important roles in whatever city, territory they conquer, and when younger, and deprived of relevance for so long, this can be exiting.

The whole adrenaline rush X games generational thing.

ISIS fighters believe sky's the limit to their potential and growth in their new society, now whether that's true or not is another thing, but many believe they're fighting to establish a place for themselves in the 'new world'.(they feel they're being given the opportunity to help engineer this new society)

Sorry but that's a lot more exiting than the reality of most military force members they oppose, who no matter how hard they fight, what the sacrifice, they'll still be at the lower end of the social ladder.

ISIS fighters believe that if they win they'll become Kings in their own providences, gold riches whatever.

That, along with all of the above and more, are great motivators and adds a fighting spirit to ISIS fighters that you just don't see from coalition forces.

Coalition fighters basically feel they're fighting for a large Government that really sees no value in them, fighting simply so the upper crust can maintain their positions ect.

Many Iraqi fighters feel either way it's a loose loose situation.

Other than being commanded and told what to do like ants, there is really nothing for coalition fighters to fight for...they may not say that, but feel that on the inside, and is why they lack enthusiasm.

ISIS fighters feel they're fighting for future Empire, coalition fighters feel they're fighting for a small pay check, and to remain in poverty while still remaining at lower end of social ladder...

With ISIS fighters every spoil of victory is there's, even down to the lowest man, in traditional militaries everything you find gets handed up to the command structure above them.

I'll continue this in more detail later, but ye, there's lots of phycology behind why ISIS fighters just seem driven like the wind.



Of course privileged people don't understand this cause they've never been down, not just temporarily down as in poor in a rich nation ect, but never been down as a matter of social class, caste.

So I don't expect a uppity type on Fox or CNN or any expert to understand any of this, but obviously it's occurring.

The uppity class only likes to take notes from themselves, while excluding anyone from the conversation whom they don't deem a academic 'expert' or degreed and so on.

And then wonder why the ranks of ISIS continues to swell, as it is the very class, uppity class, you see in leadership roles in Gov, or on TV, it is this very exclusive class that more and more people are starting to resent, and their system.

Many would rather die on the field fighting for what they believe, than remain an irrelevant nobody in certain other societies.

And it doesn't matter whether it makes sense to me and you, or whether it fits within our moral compass.

Another mistake the uppity class makes is always dismissing how another feels, simply cause 'not educated'.

Yet some of the most richest, powerful organizations on the planet were started and ran by what Ivy leaguers would consider 'uneducated class'.

The uneducated are smarter than Ivy leaguers think, and right now it's an 'uneducated' class of fighters that keeping the whole world at bay in the middle east.