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Post by X factor on Aug 21, 2014 8:34:38 GMT -5
This issue must be raised and will.
Cause something odd and disingenuous is going on within the ranks and ideology structure of the right.
Todays 'right' really doesn't reflect 1970's right in one important very key element in that I can remember when the paramilitary right wasn't always in love with Israel.
Why the change suddenly?
Was the true 'right wing' infiltrated by certain types, who slowly changed their identity?
To be blunt did 'Jews' or 'Jewish business men' infiltrate the right wing with a 'Pro Israeli' ideology?
A new Fox News, Sean Hannity, talk radio 'we love Israel no matter what' type of mentality.
And if this was done, why?
To take the focus off of what, and put it on ______ instead.
Make 'these people' the enemy, make us their heroes...hmm
We have a lot of discussing to do...I want to get to the bottom of this.
Cause something odd is going on within the ranks of the right.
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Post by X factor on Aug 21, 2014 8:56:35 GMT -5
Has Israel hi-jacked the whole 'white identity' movement and instead turned it into the 'Support Israel and Jews movement?
These are questions that must be raise, cause any honest person can see the change or switch in the right ideology over the past 30-40 years.
Todays right is not yesteryears 'Turner Diary' right.
I could care the less either way, but something tells me some things 'off' here.
Traditionally the 'right' has always had a disdain for others...for reasons that have nothing to do with politics. (but that's for another post).
But they also had a disdain for 'Jews' or 'Zionist', as they use to say...fast forward 40 years and now it seems all right wing people are in Love with Israel.
(Also the original right didn't like Catholics), now they embrace Catholics to.
I'm the only one honest enough to state this...you have to in order to find out what's going on, and why the shift, and who's responsible for the shift.
We got plenty of time to figure it out.
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Post by X factor on Aug 21, 2014 9:49:24 GMT -5
Jewish people have a distinct advantage over other 'minority' groups of color in that Jewish people are better able to physically blend in with various populations.
Where as people of color cannot, at least not in traditional Western societies.
And that ability to 'blend' in has proven to be a strategic ability over the centuries...as we may or may not discuss later.
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Post by X factor on Aug 21, 2014 15:22:06 GMT -5
Now one can't be a Republican or political Conservative unless first they pledge of allegiance to Israel, or so it seems
Seems unless one is willing to pledge their allegiance to Israel, than they aren't considered a Conservative or Republican.
I wonder how that happened?
And who engineered this new Pro Israeli 'Right wing identity'?
Who engineered it and why?
We shall find out over time.
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Post by X factor on Aug 21, 2014 16:09:24 GMT -5
I sometimes get sumicious of Jewish national syndicated talk radio hosts like Mark Levin, and Fox News hosts like Sean Hannity and others.. ( Mark Levin, supposed Right Wing radio host and Fox News contributor) Who have basically hi-jacked the American, British, non Jewish identity movement, and some how replaced love of self with love of 'Israel' and Jews. I mean according to Mark Levin, and other so called 'right wing' talk radio hosts like Sean Hannity, you're not even truly an American unless you first and foremost pledge allegiance to Israel. When was this stream of thought injected into Conservatism or 'The Right'? And seems to me much progress was being made between blacks and whites and other minorities until Jews, some, hi-jacked the Right wing identity, and redirected rage away from themselves and towards 'blacks' and other minorities. Like a deflection or distraction or something. As if to say 'If we keep everyone else divided, no one will remember not to like us anymore or why they didn't like us to begin with'.I just notice Race relations, Cultural relations, were improving, until these Jewish talk radio hosts suddenly began broadcasting stuff. We will get to the bottom of this eventually. .
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Post by X factor on Sept 7, 2014 21:52:45 GMT -5
As I'm watching this documentary on 'American Jews' on WJCT, I'm beginning to realize 'Jews' were not always accepted by Americans.
I'm talking European Americans, Christians or not.
Study Jewish history in America, the early years, and you'll see what I mean.
Many Jews fled 'white' Europe and sought opportunity in the States, but unlike other immigrants, or despised immigrants of color, Jews were able to blend in much easier with 'whites'.
But still back in like the 1700's, 1800, early 1900's, whites in America kind of had the same sumicion of 'Jews' that one now sees in the Middle East.
And oddly enough much of the hostility against Jews in the middle east, came from Europe back during Hitlers reign, and before that.
This hostility goes back to Spain, Greece ect ect, even before America was formed.
All that aside for now, I find it interesting that between 1945 and today, that now America is Pro Jewish, and particulary the 'religious right' or even secular right now days.
What happened?, is the question.
And I notice many of the loudest voices against 'black civil rights' comes from very prominent Jewish talk radio hosts who wrap themselves in Patriotism and the flag, and tell all their listeners to be loyal to Israel.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
But something just seems off.
Almost like there's trickery involved here somewhere.
Almost as if Hey, if we stir up white hate and sumicion towards blacks, maybe we can get 'white' Americans to forget that historically we too were despised by them and their ancestors'.
If so, this would explain a lot about how the image of 'black Americans' have been portrayed in the media for ages.
This deflection of rage, so to speak, would explain much.
I will continue reading history, and try to get a better grasp of how this change in attitudes towards Jews and Israel came about.
Which is fine with me, all should get along.
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Post by X factor on Dec 11, 2014 17:52:05 GMT -5
I'm beginning to see a pattern here.
The most 'scathing' reports in the media, on or about 'blacks', are written by 'Jews'.
As if they're saying 'Hey, better you direct your hostility and fears towards those deemed 'black', than at us, like in other parts of the world, and or world history'.
Almost like they're throwing 'blacks' under the bus, so that society doesn't remember that historically it was 'Jews' who were despised.
I don't despise anyone based on color or heritage, but historically 'Jews' were always persecuted.
But in todays world (at least in the West) Jews have an advantage over people of color in that they're better able to blend in genetically with European societies, and use that to their advantage to keep every ones hostilities directed towards others.
Trickery.
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Post by X factor on Jan 23, 2015 23:05:45 GMT -5
According to real life, non Fox News history, anti Semitism was around way before IslamAnti Semitism in Europe(link in red).
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Post by X factor on Mar 2, 2015 17:27:27 GMT -5
I think Hannity and half the GOP should just change their citizenship and allegiance to Israel, since they have more love and respect for that nation and Netanyahu than they do own elected PresidentOn radio, Hannity and these other talk radio hacks, can't, won't even address own duly elected President by proper title, yet get upset at the idea of Elected U.S. President skipping out on Netanyahu's speech tomorrow. The GOP's new President, NetanyahuThese sick radio types address him by proper name, yet disrespect own President fellow citizens elected. A big part of being patriotic is understanding how the system works, and that under an electoral system, no one gets their way at the ballot all the time. But just cause one doesn't get their way doesn't mean they should spend the whole time sabotaging the reputation of their own country, and elected leader by siding with foreign leader, and acting as if foreign leader has more sovereignty than own American President. President Obama has brought out some of the worst, ugliest behavior in others that I was really hoping was behind us. The more Sean Hannity and Fox News try's telling me I should love, respect, and elevate Israel and Netanyahu above America, and it's own leaders, the more I side with the Obama administration on this one. I hope they do walk out. It's not the speech that's insulting, it's the way it was done behind Presidents back, that's insulting. You don't slither your way into another nations house chambers without first notifying leader of that nation. Rep House Speaker John Boehner Not only disrespect elected President, but also disrespected American citizens who voted for him, who followed the proper electoral procedure. John Boehner, the House Speaker, is basically slapping American voters in the face by saying 'Netanyahu is your adapted President, leader, even though you didn't vote for him, he will lecture your elected representatives as if you did.'Just not sure why Israelis issues are mine. If they want to fight Iran, than by all means fight...who's stopping you...go ahead and launch your attacks. Or is it that you want U.S. to do the fighting for you, as if U.S. didn't loose enough troops in Iraq, & Afganiston. Troops return home with all sorts of mental issues, physical defects ect, and does Israel have a 'Help U.S. troop fund?'...where they help pay medical bills for returning troops? And how is it that every single supposed modern right wing talk radio host from Savage to Limbaugh to Hannity to Oreilly to Laura, Beck, how is it that they're all so Pro Israel? Where did that mindset come from I wonder.
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Post by X factor on May 22, 2015 20:02:17 GMT -5
Hmm....
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Post by X factor on Jun 24, 2016 18:14:25 GMT -5
Why do 'white' appearing Jews love to embed selves into 'white' societies, and then once entrenched create such racially divisive doctrine?
Jews seem to have one advantage other minority groups do not, skin tone or color.
When the Jews from the bible days were driven from the middle east by the Romans, and went to Europe, many, if not most, for generations 'bred' with pure white Europeans, that gave them a big advantage over other minority groups, both racial minority groups and religious minority groups.
Many of todays Jewish community could pass for 'white' or Aryan, but if go to Israel then you see more traditional olive skinned looking Israeli's.
But I've noticed many Jews in Europe or America, Britain colonies, can easily pass for white, and also have learned, read, how many of these white passing Jews, once embedded into white society, then turn around and publish some of the most racist, race dividing articles, books, theories, one would normally associate with the Klan ect, but when you read Author of book, it turns out to be a Jewish Author...this goes back to the 1800's.
And like myself, many just assumed these doctrines were 'white' in origin.
Why would white appearing Jews, who were persecuted in Europe, then come to U.S. and embed selves into 'white society' and then publish stuff that incites whites to want to hate or denigrate 'blacks' or other minorities even more?
Is there some strategy behind that?
Blend in with those who historically don't like you, and then re direct their hate, sumicion, towards other obvious minorities?
Is that a strategy?
I just want to find out...more to follow...
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Post by X factor on Sept 6, 2016 18:25:25 GMT -5
I also notice and observe, or observed, that many of the syndicated talk radio hosts who were initially against Trump, were either 'Jewish' by heritage or sympathetic to 'Israel'I noticed that the initial resistance to Trump, who loves putting American interests above all, I noticed that in beginning of his campaign, the most vocal, hostile, syndicated talk radio hosts who came out against him were either Jewish by culture, heritage, or sympathetic to Israel. (I have no problem with Israel, so don't get me wrong here...I like Israel, as a independent nation, I think that's kind of cool) (In fact would be cool if everyone could have such a independent nation of their own, but that's for another topic) Whether Glenn Beck (totally pro Israel) or Michael Medved (Jewish) or Dennis Prager (Jewish), or Levin..(Jewish), or Hugh Hewitt (Subservant to wonderful Jewish causes and businessmen)... And I could go on and on, just odd how it's the 'Jewish right' in U.S. that initially, and still do oppose Trump, and make up large coalition of the 'Never Trump' coalition. Why is that, why would the Jewish 'right', be so opposed to Trump? Cause for a change, he wants to put America first? Rubio, Ted Cruz, and the others, as if reading from a scripted, all got on stage pledging allegiance to Israel while in the middle of Iowa...huh, what? Do you think average working class farmers, truck drivers, coal miners, sanitation workers, nurses ect, care about Israel, while their own lives are in turmoil? Yet, like reading from a script, I remember they'd all blurt out stuff about having Israel's back. Trump never said that, instead Trump emphasized having Americas back, and got the nomination.
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Post by X factor on Oct 4, 2016 17:44:37 GMT -5
M Savage, national talk radio hosts, admitted today, to caller, that indeed he's 'Pro Zionist'On Michael Savages radio show today, a show that airs nationally, a show where host is known for 'firebrand' delivery of logic mixed with politics, today on his show 'Savage' admitted to caller that he was 'Pro Zionist'. (Radio host Michael Savage) People may not realize this, but Savage is 'Jewish'... And their original name was 'Michael Alan Weiner'They're Jewish...wiki link mini biography.. linkMy point of this thread or section, is to once again ask 'Were the original Right Wingers always Pro Jewish or Israel?, and if not, than how come over last 20-40 years, with the rise of Jewish talk radio hosts, they have become just that? How is it that Jews, or Jewish talk radio hosts, now are the voice of the 'right?' Savage, on radio show today, admitted to caller that he was 'pro Zionist' and then explained why. I could care the less either way, I'm simply here to observe patternsAnd a few patterns I observe about Jewish talk radio hosts who sharade as 'Anglo' is the following 1. Jewish radio hosts, from Savage, to Levin, to Dennis Prager, to Michael Medved (or however it's spelled), and many more, on their shows, love inciting 'racial tensions', love angering 'whites', against 'blacks', by always focusing on the most absurd stories of the day, they love polarizing this citizen against that citizen, as if to take attention away from the fact that they're 'Jewish', and instead orchestrating fights between other ethnic groups. It's almost as if it's a survival instinct some Jews have, to always pit others against one another, so that those 'others' forget that originally it was the 'Jews' they did not like. Manipulation, in other words. 'Hey white man, you should hate the black man, he's rotten, he black man, you should hate the white man, he oppresses you'I see this pattern over and over again, whether in U.S. or other nations. Savage, the lovely wonderful son of Jewish immigrants, plants himself into the British Anglo movement, speaks louder and with more clarity as a 'Intellectual' rather than a 'white racist', and as such given national radio show. Notice how 'White nationalists' aren't allowed to have radio shows, but Jewish ones are? Clever. If Savage were a Anglo Saxon, he'd of been kicked off the air long time ago for the things he says, suggests, about the President, and others. Anglo Saxons, with same passion, are religated to 'youtube' or other much smaller mediums. Savages net worth is around 18 Million dollars, and his son worth much more than that, who owns, created a popular energy drink. Once again Anglos 'played' by a person of Jewish background, yes played. But what do I know, I'm just an alien observer. Much more to follow.
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Post by X factor on Nov 15, 2016 16:56:23 GMT -5
This issue must be raised and will. Cause something odd and disingenuous is going on within the ranks and ideology structure of the right. Todays 'right' really doesn't reflect 1970's right in one important very key element in that I can remember when the paramilitary right wasn't always in love with Israel. Why the change suddenly? Was the true 'right wing' infiltrated by certain types, who slowly changed their identity? To be blunt did 'Jews' or 'Jewish business men' infiltrate the right wing with a 'Pro Israeli' ideology? A new Fox News, Sean Hannity, talk radio 'we love Israel no matter what' type of mentality. And if this was done, why? To take the focus off of what, and put it on ______ instead. Make 'these people' the enemy, make us their heroes...hmm We have a lot of discussing to do...I want to get to the bottom of this. Cause something odd is going on within the ranks of the right. The above was posted way back in Aug or 2014, a bit before Trump hit the campaign trail. The Zone was way ahead of the 'blog' curb in knowing that something just felt 'off', as stated above, about the daily deluge of this GENERIC, mainstream pop version of 'Conservatism', which seemed to help absolutely no one or nothing, accept radio hosts and publication. They would talk about the same generic partisan issues over and over again every single day and night, issues that really effected no one or nothing other than giving radio hosts something to chatter about...some examples. 1. Rich people goooood, wealth always good, poor people bad, poor people don't pay their 'fair share of taxes' (type of BS)(Stupid radio hosts so out of touch didn't realize half their listening base were poor heartland types struggling to pay bills) 2. National deficit BS, just stuff they'd generically throw to audience to chew on. 3. Self reliance BS, (which is true, people should be self reliant) but at same time these radio hosts never focused on the union of Gov and Enterprise and global corps, and terrible trade deals that kept sucking factories out of heartland. 4. Always focusing on 'black women on welfare' (ye, audience loves that), but never focusing on broader waste throughout budget that both D and R politicians (and their corporate sponsors are and were the beneficiaries of. 5. The endless abortion battle, knowing that nothing discussed on radio shows would change a thing, all it would do is fill 1000's of hours of useless air time. 6. They never discussed immigration truly being a threat, a cultural threat, and that's key, instead they discussed immigration as a partisan issue, and not survivalist one. And I could go on and on with other 'Jerry Springer' soft ball pop culture issues radio hosts deluged their audiences with for decades, while nation kept getting raped. And they all, like wind up dolls, had their 'pro Israel' anthems, if you did not blindly support Israel or 'Jews' you were labeled a 'Liberallll' Think about that. The original 'right wing' was totally separate and independent of any Jewish identity, then fast forward to shortly before Trump ran for office, and you couldn't be a Republican unless you pledged allegiance to the Jewish community or the State of Israel, then came Trump. Talk radio hosts, many of them Jewish, spend decades burying the 'Altright movementAnd to be honest I didn't know that's what it was, nor did I know anything about the whole 'Breitbart' movement, any of that, I was totally cut off from it all, but these radio hosts never felt right to me, the garbage they kept dumping down their audiences throats daily, nightly, just seemed like mush, designed to keep people mentally or politically paralyzed and dumb. Sorry, I always drift, as if writing a book, and often never get to meat of point. I don't get paid for this. I guess the meat of what I'm saying in this post is, the very Jewish talk radio hosts from Dennis Prager to Levin, Savage, and others, who now want to take credit for Trump, are the very ones who for decades buried that whole 'wing' of the right. I observe that Jewish talk radio hosts basically hi-jacked the whole 'white identity movement' and instead turned it into a 'Love Judaism' movement, and inserted this mindset deep within the Rep part, and conservative ideology, and drive the originators of movement out of the way into dark caves, until now, where do to Trump, we find out they regrouped, and want their party back.Much more to follow as time allows.
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Post by X factor on Nov 15, 2016 17:23:44 GMT -5
Please remember, had Donald Trump not come along, all these talk radio hosts would be propping up whatever the GOP nominee would of been, Rubio, Cruz (who so loooooves Israel)
I mean Ted Cruz, (and his fake plastic conservatism BS) even at Country fairs, while campaigning, would blurt out 'We have Israel's back' to crowds of heartland types who could really give a sh_t about that stuff.
I'll find video, time allowing, just so you can see.
It's Donald Trump who has brought the Breitbart movement to the surface, not Rush or Hannity or Savage or Laura or Dennis Prager or Hugh Hewwit or any of them, if anything they tried to bury it!
They tried to bury you, and would have again had Trump not come along.
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