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Post by X factor on Jan 5, 2014 9:34:35 GMT -5
gay = the same. If one is gay, that means they like that which is just like them. A male, who is attracted to his own mirror image, is gay... Only instead of dating self, said induvisual finds another person with similar traits as their own. There is no feminality involved with someone who is truly gay. A truly gay male, detests feminality, and the female form, voice, mannerisms (which are taught) ect. The couple above are 100% gay, they are the gold standard of same sox attraction. It doesn't get no more pure than that, two people who seek another just like themselves. As you can see in image above, a true gay male or female, desires someone with same gender traits as themselves. This will come into play later as other layers of attraction are discussed, other layers that are sometimes confused with homosoxuality, but really aren't, rather their tones of attraction a hetrosoxual might find in their own gender, but reflect that of opposite gender. Not here to discuss the morality of any of it, rather here to explain and examine from Psychiatrist point of view. Now if one is a male, and attracted to another male, not do to 100% masculinity, but rather do to tones of 'feminality' within said male, than one is not 100% gay, rather one is a derivative of the above. Example, some males seek a female, through another male. This professional male model, would not appeal to either subject A, or B above, why? cause male has overly desired feminane traits, which true gay males are turned off by...but that a derivative multi-soxual male my find attractive. Some males like feminality, whether in a female, or whether traits of feminality are seen in other males. (not all females are feminane) A male, who is attracted to another male cause said male reminds him of a female, or has feminane traits, is not 100% gay, rather opperating more on a visual level. This and more will be explained or examined in later posts...
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Post by X factor on May 18, 2014 11:04:55 GMT -5
I also notice that when it comes to TV, and Movies, most male gay couples are always in there 40's, and look like plumbers.
Not sure why Hollywood and TV steer clear of portraying gay male couples as being younger and 'cute' or 'fem'...instead on TV and in Hollywood most gay male couples are portrayed as looking like plumbers, or construction men.
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Post by X factor on Aug 31, 2014 18:54:11 GMT -5
Yes, gays, male gays, in the media are more times than not always portrayed as being 'masculine' and rough. The notion or idea that many males, at least while younger, are capable of actually being 'cute', scares a great many who are afraid of being attracted to them. Because if a hetrosoxual male suddenly found himself aroused by a younger feminine guy, it would put to question their whole moral belief system.. It's why slender, younger, male models like this are kept away from the main stream shows, magazines and commercials...cause of fear that people might actually be attracted to them. So instead TV, magazines, movies push, shove down peoples throats, the traditional big bust blonde, with make up on. It's all done for a reason. Sometimes I think Humans are the least honest of all creatures created in the Universe. At least in the West, the only role, image, society wants to see males portrayed as is big rough and tough. .
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Post by X factor on Feb 7, 2015 22:26:34 GMT -5
'Dallas buyers club'..
A very sad yet touching movie that will make you cry, but only if you have a heart...
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Post by X factor on May 13, 2015 17:01:35 GMT -5
I like clarification.
And just read something that makes me want to write out some clarification concerning same sox marriage or 'being gay' or whom one decides to love.
I think there's a difference in 'Loving someone', their being, than having soxual romance with them.
I don't think people who are against gay marriage, are against two or 3 or 5 people loving each other for reasons other than soxual attraction.
Not saying it's any of their business, but do know when having a discussion one has to be honest in order to move conversation forward.
I think there's a difference between teammates of a sports team loving each other do to fondness developed over time spent together over coming many hardships verses same team mates having lust for each other then going home and having a orgy.
Even the most devout Christian recognizes that two people of the same gender can love each other, but I guess what they're against is two people of same gender expressing that love in a soxual way.
And they're against it cause obviously they think 'God' is against it.
Not here to say whether it's right or wrong, just wanted to clarify something in my own mind.
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Post by X factor on Jan 9, 2016 16:07:05 GMT -5
Women who wear to much make up remind some of drag queensWomen who wear a ton of make-up remind some of drag queens, as if have same attention grabbing DNA as drag queens. And is why many 'true' gay males are turned off by drag queens because drag queens remind a gay male of a woman and gay males aren't attracted to things associated with 'feminine' traits. Although not sure when make-up became a feminine thing, as in nature it's usually only the male species that are adorned in bright colors. On a pure form, as if studying from an Alien point of view, make-up is neither a fem or masculine application, it's simply a way one of either species artificially enhances features for the purpose of standing out. It is assumed people want to stand out for the purpose of finding a mate, which then produces marriage, hobbits ect. But in 2016, the modern world, the intent of attracting another isn't soley done for pairing anymore. How do you classify a male who's attracted to another male who dresses up like what he thinks is a female? Confused some would say. Maybe that will be explored in future post when more time allotted.
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Post by X factor on Aug 20, 2017 11:08:58 GMT -5
If attracted to someone, outside of reproduction purposes, does that mean you're gay?Pretend humans are or can be classified as 'cars' for a moment, we all have our taste in 'cars', vehicles, but never think to classify the cars we are drawn to by gender, instead we just like what we like based on design, performance and other. Take for example the Camera... Is this a male or female car? Most people don't classify cars as 'genders', and so it doesn't matter, either one like the Camaro or one doesn't, regardless of gender. Well, does maybe the same apply to same sox or cross sox attraction?, in that some like what they like, regardless of 'gender' attached to package? In other words, research has shown that some guys/gals like what they like in a person, physical traits ect, regardless of gender they're assigned or 'are'. And if those traits one likes in personality or body style, looks and appearance, happens to fall within one of same sox, is it wrong to still be attracted to such individual? Not all relationships lead to marriage, sox and family, we all 'like' those we like, for a variety of reasons. 1. Safety 2. Trust 3. Looks 4. Values system 5. Style and behavior 6. Health and fitness 7. Ones ability to 'help us', or willingness to 8. Same culture, religion, ideology 9. Same common sense or sense of humor 10. Body style And more... These traits, others seek out in others, can often fall between genders, or even color. So what happens if someone of your 'same sox' displays all the traits you desire in opposite sox?...then what? Can you still have a relationship with such without it being considered 'gay or lesbian?'. Does it become gay/lesbian, as soon as mutual physical pleasure involved? And what if body acts ahead of moral principles, in that say one has foot fetish, and is a male, yet has male roommate that has very nice soft feet, and body responds to feet, NOT gender but just thy feet, does that make person gay? When a dog humps our arm or leg, is dog guilty of 'beastality' and should be slain? Some things you must talk to self about, for the answers can't always be provided 'here'... You must be honest with self and give self own answers, you grow only when not afraid of what answers self gives you.
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Post by X factor on Sept 14, 2020 13:12:01 GMT -5
Breaking news, Andrew Andrew Gillum, former Mayor of Tallahassee (can't believe I spelled that correctly) and former candidate for Governor, has come out and announced they're 'bi-soxual'. Read more about it here.... www.out.com/politics/2020/9/14/florida-democrat-andrew-gillum-comes-out-bisoxual Or just google or 'bing' search it on your own. The zone is always so far ahead of what is going on. It's been said on here that if people not afraid to be honest with themselves, most are indeed bi-soxual to one extent or another. And being bi-soxual doesn't mean you want to 'bed' everyone you happen to be attracted to or who you think looks good..that's a false notion created by churches, that do more to destroy other peoples happiness than almost any other institution I can think of, by always making people feel ashamed, thus hide, natural feelings towards others. The church teaches people to 'lie' about how they really feel, as not to be ostricized, thus countless millions spend their lives alone, isolated, living a lie, rather than being with whom they want. Don't doubt me on that, Andrew Gillum is just one example of many who simply don't admit their bi-soxual. As stated on here before, people are attracted to 'body types', styles, attitudes and behavior, and those traits may not always be wrapped up in opposite gender. Not all 'B' males attracted to women with big wide booties who are short and have long exaggerated finger nails, that can be a turn off to many males who prefer simple and streamlined. I mean it varies, no telling who or what Andrew Gillum is attracted to and why. Also, often times people come out ahead of time rather than being 'outted' by another. Maybe he was about to be 'blackmailed', and figured he'd release news himself rather than coming from dubious source....who knows. All I know is if you read posts in the zone, you'll learn a lot, some of it may seem silly, or 'out there', but it's all true, and every day proves that more and more.
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Post by X factor on Sept 15, 2020 2:03:51 GMT -5
Breaking news, Andrew Andrew Gillum, former Mayor of Tallahassee (can't believe I spelled that correctly) and former candidate for Governor, has come out and announced they're 'bi-soxual'. Read more about it here.... www.out.com/politics/2020/9/14/florida-democrat-andrew-gillum-comes-out-bisoxual Or just google or 'bing' search it on your own. The zone is always so far ahead of what is going on. It's been said on here that if people not afraid to be honest with themselves, most are indeed bi-soxual to one extent or another. And being bi-soxual doesn't mean you want to 'bed' everyone you happen to be attracted to or who you think looks good..that's a false notion created by churches, that do more to destroy other peoples happiness than almost any other institution I can think of, by always making people feel ashamed, thus hide, natural feelings towards others. The church teaches people to 'lie' about how they really feel, as not to be ostricized, thus countless millions spend their lives alone, isolated, living a lie, rather than being with whom they want. Don't doubt me on that, Andrew Gillum is just one example of many who simply don't admit their bi-soxual. As stated on here before, people are attracted to 'body types', styles, attitudes and behavior, and those traits may not always be wrapped up in opposite gender. Not all 'B' males attracted to women with big wide booties who are short and have long exaggerated finger nails, that can be a turn off to many males who prefer simple and streamlined. I mean it varies, no telling who or what Andrew Gillum is attracted to and why. Also, often times people come out ahead of time rather than being 'outted' by another. Maybe he was about to be 'blackmailed', and figured he'd release news himself rather than coming from dubious source....who knows. All I know is if you read posts in the zone, you'll learn a lot, some of it may seem silly, or 'out there', but it's all true, and every day proves that more and more. This is why people who are into 'absolutes', are dumb as hell to me, and or liars. Millions of women are married to 'gay' men and don't even know it, gay men who worm their way into positions of power, even become pastors, and condemn people like me, who actually aren't gay, but theatrical. These gay men, in drag, condemn those like me, in order to keep eye's off of themselves. Kind of like 'Hey, hey look over there at him', while they do their thing. It's such a smoke and mirrors trick. Andrew Gillum, the former 'B' mayor of Tallahassee and former Governor candidate, admits they're bi-soxual,.....do you actually think he's the only one?
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Post by X factor on Nov 1, 2020 10:21:11 GMT -5
Not sure if following analyst fits in this section, but I'll share some ideas anyways
With me, I notice that I'm more inclined to be attracted to another, regardless of their gender, the more 'soft souled' they come off as being, and the more 'fem' (that might not be the right term) their outer appearance seems to me.
'Fem' might not be the right word, cause a male can look youngish, cute, and soft, but not sure if that would be considered 'fem'.
People have different definitions of fem.
Some think 'fem' means looking like a prostitute and acting real saucy and inviting, like theater or something.
Others think 'fem' means being more naturally soft, in how one carries themselves, in a male maybe that would be called 'boyish'? or humble?
Or maybe 'relaxed'?
You just know it when you see it, or when another has it in them, it's not something one can fake. Or maybe in a male it's called 'being laid back and at ease'?
That aside, looks, and body type plays a large role also initially.
Example
The other day I found myself just as eager to help out a very thin, slender male, wearing shorts, and sandals at work, as I did to help out a female who also needed help at work.
I was drawn to both, to the female, ye she happened to be decent looking to me, but with the woman I responed to help her more out of 'duty as a male to help any female in distress'...then the fact that she looked decent came in second.
But with the guy who needed help, I knew they were a guy ahead of time, but it was their appearance, their thin skinny look, vulnerable look, that made me want to help them, had it been a heavy set guy with a beard, not so much.
I guess the more 'fem' or 'soft' another is in front of me, the more my 'manhood' is activated, regardless of their gender.
And when you think about it, that's how most males are, just most won't admit it.
Let me repeat that, that's how most men are, just most won't repeat it out of fear of being labeled 'gay'.
But when you observe, most guys, at least when younger, have very cute looking male friends.
It's almost like the more cute the guy friend you have looks, the cooler you are to be seen with them...not gay, but cute.
And sorry, but if you're one of those pre-historic thinking males, or even females, who still deny that a guy can't be cute, than what else do you lie to yourself about?
Sorry, but words have descriptive meanings, and yes, a males can look both rough and tough and or cute and even pretty...those are descriptive terms, not soxual orientation terms.
I see plenty of women that don't look cute to me, and plenty of slender college aged males who do. That doesn't mean I want to hump them or sleep with them, it just means I'm honest with descriptive words.
Does that make me 'bi-soxual', the lame or curious may ask (ask yourself the same question).
And to me, no it doesn't, it simply makes me honest.
There's nothing I hate more, as I age, than being around insecure people whom you cannot be honest around.
Nothing worse than males who are so gdm frail on the inside that if you refer to another male as being cute, they panic and get that giggly frail voice and are like 'Hey man, or you gay or something?'...duh, says the frail as glass on the inside guy.
As if if you are gay, you're going to instantly throw them to the ground and begin humping them right there on 5th and Colfax street while traffic is driving by.
Fear makes people totally irrational, that's for sure.
And then, as I get older, I begin asking myself what soxuality is all about (now subject matter changing a bit)
Is it a sin to be attracted to someone of the same sox when pro creation with opposite sox is no longer possible or likely?
I mean the whole purpose of heterosoxuality is to pro create, but there's many relationships that are formed outside the pro creation dynamic.
In other words a guy can date a woman, say a older woman who can't have any hobbits, but they still engage in xual activity together, what's that called?
Or a guy, can do the same with another guy, and the end result is still 'no family', then it's simple 'pleasure' for pleasures sake.
I mean guys have cake with women all the time, who don't intend on starting families with, just look at the Korn industry.
Billions spent on Korn, where people get espoused, just for the sake of it...is that any different than being 'gay'?
And when 76, withered, and unattractive, will any of it have mattered?
When all those you tried impressing are dead and gone, will what you did, who you kissed, when you were 25 have mattered?
No, it will all be forgotten, as if never occurred, and those you engaged with under the sheets will be under the earth, in a grave, or ashes scattered.
People just tend to make a big deal out of stuff that won't matter 100 years from now.
Anyways, I'm all over the map here, the important thing is just to get people thinking about stuff, mainly thinking about themselves, cause that's what it all comes back to and that is 'you'.
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Post by X factor on Jun 1, 2021 4:12:45 GMT -5
I don't think I'm gay, don't want to be gay, but to be honest, just at stage of existance, existence, where most women just don't impress me anymore.
I just see their little evil smirks in their faces, they just seem like nasty cruel creatures to me, at least the ones on TV, and maybe some in real life as well, always trying to manipulate others.
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Post by X factor on Sept 25, 2021 9:10:35 GMT -5
For me, I don't like the term 'gay', cause it's a final destination name or implication
I don't think being colorfully artful as a male has a soxual destination, other people try to give it one, but that doesn't make it so.
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Post by X factor on Sept 25, 2021 9:35:12 GMT -5
For me, I don't like the term 'gay', cause it's a final destination name or implication I don't think being colorfully artful as a male has a soxual destination, other people try to give it one, but that doesn't make it so. I think as a male, you can even be attracted to other males, for various reasons, and still not be 'gay'.
I know that kind of thinking doesn't make sense to most, sense most so conditioned to fear the implications of being gay that many males go out of their way to pretend they're not the slightest bit ever attracted or admire the qualities of other males, women aren't hamstrung by this so much those, is why there's so many women magazines where other women admire the features of other women without being Lesbian
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Post by X factor on Aug 1, 2022 14:57:15 GMT -5
To me it starts with body type, as least as you get older. When younger, you're just trained to be attracted to only the female gender or opposite sox, cause of course that's how species pro-create. But say as you get older, never had hobbits of your own, and or if did are now grown, in other words when pro-creation no longer apart of the equation, than well many people's tastes tend to broaden, based on body types.
And that varies greatly from person to person, culture to culture.
Some guys like big booty type women with all the jugs and all, other guys prefer skinny, thin, more petite women who have more of a slender males body or WNBA type of body.
And then you can break it down to hands, feet, hair, face ect, it can get complex.
For instance, I often see W guys, younger ones, as in early 20's, who at least in the media, tend to have softer looking hands and feet than do B females, not all, but many.
Whites, at least when younger, tend to have glowy, creamie skin that looks radient, at least in the media.
But that changes as they age do to sun damage. But I like soft hands, I don't like large field type of hands on a female, and then the long nails crap scares me even more.
If I could design my own mate, they'd for sure have the soft hands of younger white males.
to be continued.
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Post by X factor on Apr 25, 2023 20:20:14 GMT -5
What I don't like about LGBTQ dating sites, is they always show cover shots of how 'gay' people look through the eyes of a straight personYou know, you browse LGBTQ dating sites, mainly out of curiosity, but the main thing that always turn me off is the models they use as promos, they're such stereotypical cookie cutter images of what like straight people think gay people look like. You know, the chiseled body building looking gay couple, and the hot model looking lesbian couple, and that's it. In reality, like the hetero world, LGBTQ folks come in all different shapes, styles, cultures, body types, ect. Not all gay men are these beefed workout at the gym daily types, many gay or bi males are scronny or what some call 'twinks', or just of normal build. Also, what turns me off about gay sites in this idea that you're only there for bedroom stuff, I mean to me that's just gross, how about wanting to just be there for relationships, to relate stuff, ideas, thoughts. But instead, like hetero sites, it's always 'what body type are you looking for?' type of stuff, like a meat market or something, old Craigslist type of stuff or posts, where depraved people of all and mixed orientations are just looking for wild whatever. I wish there was a dignified same gender site that had a different approach to meeting someone, that focused more on personal interests, or hobbies, or business ventures, schooling, politics, activism, ect, other than just pure physical prowess.
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