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Post by X factor on Dec 26, 2014 20:35:05 GMT -5
Even though both Eddie Murphy and Lawrence Martin are two comedians past their prime, the laughter and smiles both brought many throughout the 80's and 90's are etched into many peoples teenage years, coming of age years. Both have a wide body of work, but slightly different. Eddie got his main start on Saturday Night LiveWhere as Martin made his main mark in the TV series titled 'Martin' (after his own name). But as the years go by, I've often wondered which body of comedy holds up better...Eddies or Martins? They both have done TV and film, and it may just be a matter of 'taste'. Everyone has a preference, and I'm trying to figure out mine. But with Eddie, outside of '48 hours', and 'Trading places'...and his early stand up, not sure what there is to follow. Martin Lawrence, on the other hand, I think has a wider body of legitimate work, comedy that crosses TV and film. Both were wonderful in their prime, in their own ways. In the following posts I'd like to examine how each of their bodies of work are holding up over time.
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Post by X factor on Dec 26, 2014 21:26:59 GMT -5
Eddie Murphy more of a pioneer vs MartinOne distinction I must give Eddie Murphy over Martin Lawrence is that of 'Pioneer'. Eddie, like Richard Pryor, and Red Foxx (and a few others) hold that distinction of being pioneers for their era or generations, in that they did things at the time that no other comedians were doing or dared to do. They opened doors for others with they're style and body of work, made or created a market so that other comedians, like themselves, were sought out. And Eddie Murphy's stand up performance in 'Delirious' took 'black' stand up from kind of the apologetic style of Richard Pryor, to the new coming of age 'Hey, I'm in your face and insulting your sensebilities' style of the 80's. Where particularly black comedians just unleashed social frustrations parents and grandparents kept inside but could never say candidly, and suddenly Eddie Murphy comes along and says it, but in a way that made people laugh across the board. He pointed out a lot of absurdity of the past, said things that were obvious and needed to be said, but in a comedic manner that didn't alienate people. (that's an art), yet was Eddies strong point in his early stand up and films. It was him who did it, and no one else, as such he will always hold that pioneer distinction that Lawrence doesn't really have. An example of some of Eddies early stuff, an example of the above, in that he said things that everyone already thought about anyways, but couldn't say in comedic way the way he could, and mind you most of his audience was always 'white'. Again, it's an art to be able to do what he did and yet not offend people. And in a way people were more 'loose' back then than they are now, less sensitive in a way. Comedy is all about 'timing', era, age. Certain comedy worked back then that may not be so funny today or well received simply do to different times in history and where we are as a society now verses then.
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Post by X factor on Jan 27, 2015 19:24:25 GMT -5
Blue Steak...one of the comedy movies Martin made while in his youthful prime.
I'm watching it now...it's silly but does put smiles on your face at times.
It's clean comedy for the most part.
Martin is a very under appreciated comedian, he did a lot for comedy back in the day.
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Post by X factor on Oct 3, 2015 20:52:43 GMT -5
Also, Martin Lawrence is one of the few non Saturday night cast members to make it big.
Most of the other successful comedians from his era either came from Saturday night live or 'In living color'...Martin was successful independently of both late night variety shows.
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Post by X factor on Mar 25, 2017 9:58:17 GMT -5
Martin, the TV show, like wine, only gets better with timeMartin the TV show only gets better with time, like fine wine. I think Martin is one of the most under appreciated comedians of his era, he just seems to always slip through the mentions when it comes to best comedians of all time lists or discussions. The 'BET' channel is airing his old show right now, and I'm loving it, all the guest appearances and so forth. Martin, his humor was 140% 'in', back in the day, his timing, reactions were so 'fresh', he was it back in the day, even more so than Eddie Murphy, in my opinion. I think Martin came along during last generation when urban blacks still strived to be 'middle class', yet still retained that 'street' cred style and profile. Martin represented middle 'B' American humor, working class humor. He then went on to star in many successful movies. One of the few sitcoms that's still capable of making me laugh.
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Post by X factor on May 18, 2021 0:15:56 GMT -5
Eddie Murphey stopped being funny to me decades ago.
My problem with him is seems after the movie 'Beverly Hills Cop 2', and or doing that movie, he just started acting 'gay'...
Now mind you I could care the less if someone is 'gay', but there's a difference between being gay, and 'acting gay', and well, Eddie Murphey acts gay, like the silly stereotypical type of gay.
I mean to me, if gay, just be yourself, 'gay' isn't a 'act', just like being heterosoxual isn't a 'act', not sure why people think being 'gay' is a 'act'.
Mainly guys do the whole 'acting gay' bit, Women, or Lesbians do not, you never see a Lesbian woman trying to 'act Lesbian', and if so I sure can't tell.
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Post by X factor on Nov 14, 2021 19:41:35 GMT -5
Here's some Martin Stand Up stuff
Anyone who comes behind Eddie and Pryor actually probably has to be better in a way.
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