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Post by X factor on Jul 28, 2015 21:05:31 GMT -5
Jonestown Reality I think one of the most haunting things about the Jonestown tragedy is how one minute all those people were alive, Jim Jones was preaching his eerie 'Death Sermon' to them, in audio you could hear odd soothing elevator like music playing over PA system, and you could hear members of the cult voicing various opinions about what was to come. Then next thing you know, less than 2 hours later, fly's are gathering. All of it, them, their dreams, aspirations, hopes, joys, gone, just like that, in a snap. One minute a vibrant human being, with the miracle of life flowing through veins, next minute a dead corpse, lifeless and still, frozen in a death pose. No resurrection, no glory, no nothing, just gone, body and mind dead, flesh rotting. I mean is that the ultimate reality we all face?? That's what I find so creepy...I mean what if that's all there is, regardless of personal belief, what if all there is is a Jonestown type of ending? The thing about Jonestown is many died in same place at once... But daily across the nation, world, many more than that die collectively. So I mean is that it? Do we all have to look forward to our own version of a Jonestown ending, where one minute we have life in our veins, and then the next minute fly's laying eggs in our rotting flesh? To be continue...stupid 'updates' forcing me to shut computer down... I hate that... To be continued..
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Post by X factor on Jul 28, 2015 21:42:21 GMT -5
The Audio will break your heart, really make you think Warning, audio of Jonestown ending is disturbing!  Warning, audio is disturbing, and real life FBI released voice of Jim Jones during his final hour death speech. It's sad, heart breaking... Don't listen to it if you don't think you can handle it. I couldn't listen to it at first, but finally did, almost all of it. It will make you very mad, upset, angry. And if of good moral standing, will make you be extra vigilant against anyone you love, or even yourself, ever ever falling for the 'Kool-Aid'. Always think for yourself no matter what. Fathers, be there for you family! Many of these cult followers felt abandoned by their own families, and you can hear some of the women saying 'Jim Jones you were the only father figure I ever had'Sick and gross... You're telling me the only father figure they ever had was Satan?, posing as a human? If you're brave enough to listen to audio (which I may or may not take down later) than after hearing it I really hope it will make you a better person. A more concerned person. And will make you not really like dictators around the world, wherever they may be found. May the God of love be with all the poor souls that laid their lives down for Jim Jones, who was a sadistic demon from hell. (And notice how Jim Jones, during his final death sermon, did not once ever mention Jesus or resurrection or the bible or anything, or God outside of his own dark vision?...so very dark and creepy, who needs horror movies when you have this) Added: Jim Jones shaking hands with San Francisco Mayor, who was assassinated one week after Jones town event.  Some bizzar stuff going on here folks.
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Post by X factor on Aug 2, 2015 22:49:15 GMT -5
More and more I'm beginning to wonder if mans conscious can really be transferred after death. I mean all those people who died in Jonestown, above, where are they? If their conscious thought or beings were still alive than where are they? Why haven't they come back and told anyone anything? Or all the other people who have died. Where are they? And no I'm not talking about 'funny spirits', dark negative energies who taunt man, cause as far as I'm concerned they're not 'dead'. Evil spirits aren't dead, they're alive like us, only in different form. But seems when humans die, when the body dies, that's just it, just like when a insect dies or pet dog dies, just gone, wiped out, never to be again. Seems outside of brain function there's nothing. Don't get me wrong, I really want there to be, and if there is I certainly won't be disappointed, but how does one, even a 'god' transfer ones conscious thoughts to another body? I mean even Jesus came in the form of a man, was born like everyone else, died, and has not been seen since...does that make sense? I would like for it to, but seems Jesus died, past away, just like all those people at Jonestown. (above post) And to be honest, the older I get the less evidence I see of Jesus and or his love and or holy ghosts influence over others. All I see is people interpiting the bible through their own culture and or bias and or political interests. I'm sure I pass by many church going Christians throughout the day, and don't feel any special 'Love' radiating from them. I think the Love I felt when I use to go to church long ago, was just from being familiar with those in attendance. I think God makes very few wise, and more than not just makes people stubborn. A church going snake handler died the other week, they were apart of one of those evangelical church handling sects.  Snake bit them, they refused medical help, went to brothers home and died. I mean what was the point in that? All that faith, and they still died of snake poison like any other mammal. To them, their faith was 100% strong and solid, I mean you can only be as sincere and genuine as you can be. But seems the God they were worshipping didn't care, and they still died of snake poison as would some atheist. To me, if nothing else, faith is a comforter while alive. And it doesn't really hurt anything if in proper context, I mean there's nothing wrong with believing there's a heaven after death, if that comforts some, many, so be it. I know for years it sure comforted me. But as a thinking person I just sometimes wonder. I think I was happier when I didn't think as much. |
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Post by X factor on Aug 11, 2015 22:16:17 GMT -5
Just when I thought it couldn't get any weirder with the Jim Jones cultThis is some odd stuff, like these people were under some spell or something, which eventually led to this 
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Post by X factor on Aug 16, 2015 19:40:38 GMT -5
I think I'd rather spend eternity in some kind of hellish realm, than to just black out after death and not ever exist again...  |
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Post by X factor on Aug 26, 2015 21:16:02 GMT -5
Black churches sometimes don't make sense to me, their foundations
Basically snatch you from Africa, destroy language, culture and family bonds, strip you of all human dignity, and then convert you to the 'God' savior of the ones 'we' worship, and use to justify all we're doing towards you.
It's like being molested, and then turning around and worshipping the 'god' of the one who molested you, the 'god' that in the mind of the one that molested you, justified it.
Makes no sense
In other words there was no 'Jesus' in the African tribal culture at the time.
If Jesus was lord of all, would not the Africans had known about him at time of capture?
I mean why would a god of love and salvation leave it up to those violating all of that, to force inject his existence onto them?
It's like being beaten up by someone, and while they're beating you up they're also saying 'Jesus saves!'.
Like saying back in 1733 'Look slaves, here's our God, and even though we don't follow him the way we should, we expect you to'.
Just makes no sense.
Some things really off here about everything that most aren't willing to think about.
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Post by X factor on Oct 1, 2015 22:32:26 GMT -5
The older I get, the more odd it seems for me to see people bowing down to a 'god' they've never met, like especially in Islam.
People brainwashed to all bow down to a entity they've never met, that is so powerful, yet can't even show itself in physical form.
Not sure why now days, seems like all 'Gods' want you to die first before they reveal themselves to their followers.
Die first, then you can see me..seems odd.
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Post by X factor on Oct 29, 2015 8:01:44 GMT -5
Sometimes I feel like using a Ouija board, since 'God' never talks to me in any recognizable way, shape or form.
How is a Jewish book written over 2000 years ago suppose to convey meaning to me, now, in todays time?
Jewish people are not 'God' to me or Godly, nor are they capable of displaying the type of universal love, unconditional love for people that supposedly Jesus did.
Proof of this is if a Jewish person saw me now, today, they would probably resent me, without knowing a thing about my character.
In other words Jews are no different than any other human, are no more capable of discerning things, when it comes to others nature, than anyone else is.
Sure, the stereotype is that Jews are good in finance, but that has nothing to do with divinity, that's just a worldly trait, not a divine one.
Jews participated in and helped facilitate the trans continental slave trade, and through history, while living in European lands, America, Jews were just as racist to blacks as Anglo Saxons were.
European looking Jews would simply take advantage of being 'light skinned' as a way of blending in with the dominant society and exploiting their ability to blend in.
Instead of coming to the rescue of targeted minorities, the majority of Jews chose to 'hide' behind their color and join racist in persecuting people of color.
There's nothing godly about that, so no sure why I'm suppose to look up to European Jews as being so special, they're no different than any other flesh born peoples of this planet.
Are just as hateful and effected by sin, a dark nature, as anyone else.
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Post by X factor on Nov 1, 2015 7:01:41 GMT -5
The more loved you feel, are, the more likely you'll believe in a Loving God
The more loved one feels, the more likely they are to believe the love they receive from others is a reflection of Gods divine love and care.
If one is not loved, doesn't feel loved, than for some it's harder to grasp why would some cosmic being love you if those created in it's image do not.
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Post by X factor on Nov 1, 2015 7:34:57 GMT -5
Sadly the more older I get, study things, history, realize how many other people, civilizations, towns, Governments have been here before me, are here now, the smaller the idea becomes that Gods love for me is the center of anything but wishful thinking.
Out of billions of people, who live far more productive lives than I do, ever will, not sure why over the years I was able to convince myself that some how Gods love would gravitate towards me.
To be religious in any form requires one to be a bit or a lot self centered
I guess to be religious in any form, you have to be a bit or a lot self centered.
In reality, I realize now I'm nothing, nada, less than zero, and matter not to a soul alive today.
Basically my existence is meaningless, and I will have changed absolutely nothing in this world, will have effected no ones destiny or outcome in any meaningful way or manner.
It's fun convincing yourself how much a divine God, creator, love 'you'.
It's fun and comforting, and provides reassurance, purpose and meaning to life.
It's fun, but is it reality?
Some reasons listed below why I find it hard to believe there's one universally uniting God of Love.
1. Cause people still hate, despise you, regardless of your character, they hate and despise you on sight.
If there was a all knowing God, and this God were in them, influencing them, than they would not be so hostile towards you based on external perceptions.
In other words, in order to be loved by man, you have to fit some kind of physical template, depending on what society or continent you come from.
This has changed over the course of mans reign on Earth.
At one time maybe it was hot to be a young soxy Egyptian, when they dominated the world scene 1000's of years ago.
And in China I'm sure it's hot to be some younger Chinese male or female steeped in tradition and promise.
Or in Africa, it's probably, or use to be, hot to be some young male prince full of promise, or some young lady following the trends of the day.
Or in the West now days, Europeans are the flavor of this era, the lighter skinned one is the more value they have to others.
The lighter skinned one is, the more safe people tend to feel around them, when one is lighter skinned or white, they're almost granted instant trust in the West.
Can walk into any store and be trusted, not considered bad or sumicious until actually do something bad or sumicious.
On the other hand if darker skinned, particularly of African decent, society considers you instantly bad right away, until you prove otherwise.
But again this changes depending on continent, region, culture ect.
My point is man is very flesh orientated, yet God is claimed to be spirit.
Yet those who worship this spirit still are flesh orientated.
Christian 'whites' can be, have been in the past, still are, just as potentially racist as an Atheist white.
Christian Asians, protect their cultural and family lines by only allowing off spring to marry others like them, same with most peoples on Earth.
So this idea that God divine is universal and that his love effects all in the same way, to see same view point is false.
People can love each other at a distance only it seems.
And unless one has been an actually minority in either a foreign land or within their own land, it's hard to perceive that.
Love always seems abundant when living amongst own kind
And own kind can mean social kind as in class or religion, education ect.
But when removed from own kind, it's when you really get to see how people behave, when a minority in looks, beliefs, religion, color or orientation ect, is when the true nature of man can be observed.
Even a vampire will like you if it thinks you to are a vampire, but if a sheep amongst vampires, how will they behave towards you then?
Point is most only love you when they think you're just like them, this has been proven online over and over again.
The age of the internet totally proves this where people only have to relate to thought, but not appearance.
Is how a male can get on dateline, say the right things, and attract other males while posing as a female.
It's how a white person can pretend to be black, say the right things, and be convincing, or how a Muslim from around the world can blend into forum or chat room by simply relating to those on there.
Yet if picture taken of many best friends online, they may all be totally different looking.
It's like you can get along with anyone until you see them, goes the new saying I just made up here.
Proof that man is, has been, and will always be a DNA based life form just like animals, who do the same thing.
But the one thing that still makes me believe man is more is that fact that some have a conscious.
I have a conscious, which prevents me from doing wrong, and if I truly didn't believe in a loving God, or that I was a reflection of that in some small way, not sure why I'd still have a strong conscious.
I'll continue with that theme later.
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Post by X factor on Nov 4, 2015 2:48:46 GMT -5
According to some peoples logic, the only criteria to entering into heaven is that you know or knew the deceased
I don't like when people automatically assume that just because they knew someone while alive, that that person automatically ends up in heaven or a better place.
If there is a God, than I'd assume that it's God who sorts that kind of stuff out, not man.
According to mans logic (those I'm referring to in this post) the only criteria to getting into heaven is that the you were related to or friends with the person who assumes you're there.
It's why even when gangsters die, foul mouthed rappers die, hardcore racist die, at funeral everyone assumes 'Oh, they're in a better place now, in heaven, looking down'...
But I'm like 'how do you know?'
How does anyone know where anyone goes after death?
How do we know some or many don't go straight to hell, or a worse place?
I mean how is it one can be wicked and mean to others, cheat others out of their wages, hoard wealth while others starve, cheat, steal, lie, yet somehow automatically end up in a better place?
No remorse for anything while alive, yet when dead, on the other side, just automatically end up in a better place.
I doubt that.
If they were cruel and viscous on Earth, why would their character change any other place?
Who knows, just pondering.
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Post by X factor on Nov 6, 2015 3:39:39 GMT -5
Does anyone really believe Jesus is coming back anymore? I mean 2000 + years is a long absence, maybe not for a 'God' but it sure is for biological life. I mean think how many billions have lived and died all awaiting the return of 'The Savior', or at least those who even knew about Jesus. Many billions have lived and died who were never even told about Jesus, who came from cultures with their own form of afterlife salvation. Jesus was suppose to possible come back in the year 2000, didn't happen, then predicted to return many times after, didn't happen, and before, didn't happen. I mean what are they waiting for? I think many, whether religious or not, want to be rescued from this planet, saved from the tyranny of man, yet Jesus stays away.
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Post by X factor on Nov 18, 2015 21:44:50 GMT -5
Nothing has meaning in this world, unless there's a after lifeUnless there's a afterlife, or life after death, than nothing anyone does in this world has any meaning at all, zero, simply space dust with a conscious for a while.  If there's no after life, resurrection, than nothing anyone in this world matters, and really has no bearing. I mean if in a million years or less, Earth returns to cosmos as sun expands, than nothing will have ever mattered.  If this is to be the end for all, if the Earth is simply to be swallowed up by the sun again, and absorbed back into space dust, than nothing today, matters. It won't matter that one was a Muslim, Christian, Confederate or Sunni or Ninja...it just won't matter. If there's not life after death than everything is of net zero gain. (As I was typing this, something fell off shelf, in front of my eyes..hmm) Anyways I'm going to end this post now to think about odd paranormal occurrence that just happened.
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Post by X factor on Nov 18, 2015 22:01:43 GMT -5
If there is no God, afterlife or hellIf there is no God, afterlife or hell, than why should I fear the Ouija board?  If there is no God, afterlife or hell, than what are the forces behind Ouija boards, I wonder? Real or imagination? The older I get, seems the less things make sense, the more you think, in a honest way, the less things make sense..
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Post by X factor on Nov 18, 2015 22:07:32 GMT -5
I mean you see patterns in your life, that aren't tangible to anyone else, that lets you no something is influencing outcome...but what is it?
Certain people have patterns of good luck and fortune, than others have patterns of bad luck and misfortune.
But still, none of it matters if there's no afterlife to confirm what you thought you knew while alive.
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