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Post by X factor on Jun 27, 2013 10:51:01 GMT -5
Big social sites fall, collapse, when all they become to average, organic, non commercial users, is one big gigantic social Yellow Page. When the average organic user begins to sense that the only entities they're reacting or responding to is adds, bots, robots and business, than the experience is reduced to nothing more than flipping through the yellow book pages at home. It would be like flipping through the yellow pages at home, and calling different businesses to chat. Most would hang up on you unless you showed interest in their service or product. And that's what it becomes like on many of these social sites that are over whelmed by adds and apps and businesses...the organic interaction between users begins to dwindle and thus people find other places to hang out for more human interaction. And like with MySpace, I read an interesting article this morning that says the same thing will occur with FB.. How google will destroy facebook...interesting readTo summarize the article, basically as organic users seek other social sites, fb will be forced to fill space with more adds, bots, spam, businesses, thus creating the interactive yellow book environment that I wrote about above. And I sense twitter will eventually go that same route, as the average, organic user begins to feel the only interaction taking place is them with a business or bot or app. It becomes dry after a while, and starts to feel empty...the same way browsing through the Yellow Pages does. The rise and fall of large social sites can kind be compared to the rise and fall of a star... Social sites that get to big follow same life cycle of a star. 1. First starts off as dust...the dust equals millions of people needing place to hang out online. 2. Then gravity brings dust together...social site brings all these people together. 3. Mass of star begins to grow as it sucks on more particles...social site grows as more people join... 4. Star burns through useful life, swells into red giant...Social site burns through useful cycle, ppl loose interest, age, mature, move on, to fill void social sites allows more adds, bots, spam which artifiscally keeps site inflated... 5. Star finally collapses under own weight...social site finally implodes as people and other advertisers realize there's no real organic people, consumers to sell product too. 6. Black hole forms, creates super vacuum, another star is born, Social site collapses, leaves vacuum, another social site is born from the ashes... Once add and spam and bots become more than 30% of the registered users...not sure if destructive trend can be reversed... And percentage wise, I'm sure there's a % rate or critical mass point where user experience is damaged by to many adds or spam. But that's for industry experts to figure out who study this stuff...
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Post by X factor on Jun 27, 2013 11:34:58 GMT -5
In fact, the Yellow Pages should just create their own social site... I mean they already have millions of advertisers already...simply add a social content to it... And then watch the content of their pages go up...duh.. They hire all these consultants, and Ivy league type marketers...and yet no one has suggested this to them. The Yellow Pages should created their own social media experience or site, since they already have every advertiser under the sun...and have been around forever...
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Post by X factor on Aug 4, 2013 5:46:57 GMT -5
This 'Yellow page' effect is already occurring with me...as my time on twitter is beginning to dwindle. I don't get on twitter to interact with adds, and promos and bots, and automated tweet accounts. And when enough people start to feel as I do, that's when social sites begin to go down, like the life cycle of a star (as demonstrated above) Once enough people start feeling, as I do, that while on twitter, no one is really listening to what you type, then more will leave or simply abandon accounts. It's what happens when sites become over saturated with adds and promos... People don't like feeling like their, our, only value is to consume products. Again...it's just as empty and void of a feeling as it would be to shift through the yellow pages all day long talking to adds...
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Post by X factor on Sept 13, 2013 17:57:30 GMT -5
I heard today on the radio that 'Twitter' is thinking about going public, like FaceBook did...good luck.. . One of the benefits they mentioned was that they could 'buy more adds'...or something to that nature... More 'add bots'...'fake add accounts', 'promos'..'lifeless interactions'...gee, that's all twitter needs... I know my own personal twitter experience is beginning to wane, as of lately.. Again, it's becoming more and more like the yellow pages...if I want to interact with business, than I'll just go to the yellow pages and randomly call businesses up and say 'Hey, what's up!?'... To which the phone would quickly hang up...click. And that's what twitter is becoming more and more like, and as it does, more and more people like myself will find alternative online communities or boards where we don't feel we're constantly being played by adds, or bots.. But by this time, the owners, originators of these social sites are so rolling in the dough...like the upper stratosphere of billionares, that they could hardly care the less about the induvisual experience while on their line....they could really just care the less after they get to a certain point. But multiply myself, by thousands, millions, and soon it adds up...and soon they realize their site is just for adds...bots talking, sending messages to other bots...then stock goes down, and site go 'bust'...like the cycle of a star, as illustrated above...to be replaced somewhere else by a new star...
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Post by X factor on Jan 3, 2014 8:42:27 GMT -5
I notice online posting is down all over, not just on sites like twitter, but also on like online news site comment section like this story on Ex Viking kicker accuses coach of being bigot (gays)In the past, a story like this would have generated at least 10-100 comments instantly, but today, hundreds of stories like this get no response...even from the regulars. I observe maybe the online craze is beginning to wane, fade. Maybe those who use to always post religiously, realize posting your opinion does little to change your status in life. You don't get paid for it, don't become famous for it, and now, have to sign away your life to be able to post on online papers. They want to know everything about you, email, contacts, where you live, on and on and on, all for what? I observe more and more people are declining to register, and would rather just read article, than sign over their life simply to make a few comments. That tells me people still very much value their privacy. I also notice as more sites become gummed up with adds, and apps, less people sign in and or comment. I've been saying this for a long time, that aggressive adds turn off die hard readers, or even forum members. Leaving comments all over the web really do nothing to enhance ones life, at first it was exciting, leaving one comment, and a fake identity, and avatar, made millions feel like a miniature celeb... "Oh look at me, everyone knows my opinion, I now matter, I can be heard, read, now just like famous people". But no one has yet to become famous, or sign movie deal, for posting a comment online. Truth is, if one isn't already a celebrity, you could post 10,000 comments, and still won't be a celebrity, your comments will just be filed away and eventually converted to un readable code. Bots, are another big turn off to people, bot accounts, accounts that post automatically and send out repeated, replicated messages. Twitter has many fake, or bot accounts, and so does FB, I hear...and other social sites. People who only use social sites to cram products down the throats of members, are highly responsible for creating this new dry, cold climate. People who join social sites, not to actually interact with folks, but to promote this or that, through 'bots'...are a major reason why online interacting is declining. I mean if you have 10-100,000 or even 1 million, fake bot accounts, after a while it creates a vacuum. Bots messaging other bots. And it's why on twitter, you can observe less and less comments being left by real live humans....posted stories go blank, in comment section. There is less and less human interaction. I predicted all this in the first post...the 'Yellow Page Syndrome'. I think the people who were around, or teens, or in early 20's, high school, when all this online inter action began, are simply maturing now, have grown up, some have families now, other responsibilities, and just don't have time to waste posting. They've been around long enough to see that nothing ever comes of your post. And I suspect have found other ways to satisfy their social needs, like maybe going out again and actually meeting real people, without some robot following them around touting 'Buy Coke, buy Coke' over and over again. Whatever the reason, the decline is occurring...you'd have to be blind not to notice it. And one more reason is saturation, now there's many other sites that offer what only a few did in the beginning. Like the TV networks... In the beginning there was only 3, now there's hundreds of channels, same with social media...there are so many sites now, that the pool of people who use to always be on 1 or 2 sites, are stretched over 100's of online interactive forums. And new private ones are always popping up all the time, being invented by new computer science types. Social media can feel cold and lifeless at times, expecially when you're going through real life issues, and realize the person you were confiding in turned out to be nothing more than a 'bot'...who only wants to sell you books, while even on your death bed.
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Post by X factor on Jan 3, 2014 9:11:44 GMT -5
Celebs are also another big killer of social sites, cause they hog all the attention. Ordinary people, who normally interact with one another, suddenly turn eyes upward, and only want to focus on want a celeb says. Suddenly your opinion, identity, no longer matters unless you're a 'A' star or athlete. These celebs suck all the life and energy out of social sites cause they never interact with their followers, with the exception of a few 'MC Hammer', Jim Carrey, and a few others. But most do not...and most of their profiles are created by 3rd parties. Celebs tend to make ordinary people feel, well ordinary....I mean think about that. No one is really ordinary...but ordinary is a word almost created to describe folks who aren't famous. And has a profound effect on peoples esteem, self image and self worth. You can be the best writer in the world, but if not perceived as a 'celeb'...won't be noticed. As such many have learned the art of faking being a celeb, and is often why on twitter you'll see geeks, rappers, singers (who self title themselves) with 100,000 followers. Even if people perceive you're a celeb, they'll follow you. Just tell them you're a 1. Profesional speaker 2. Profesional writer 3. Aspiring artist 4. Content designer On and on...give yourself a title. Anyways...gotta get on with real day and real issues. I'm one of the few that still simply writes just as a hobby.
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Post by X factor on Mar 22, 2014 15:25:02 GMT -5
Businesses selfishly hog up space on social sites, and eventually 'kill' them, like cancer does to a body.
How, why?
Social sites were created for people, ordinary Tom and Tina, to discuss daily occurrence's like 'what's for dinner?', 'what team do you play for?' and so on.
The Business come in and don't care what you had for dinner, what team you play for, how your mood is, all they want to do is Promote a product and or brand.
All their postings are automated one way programs...you could be dying, and they wouldn't know or care, all they want you to do is buy their product.
As such they destroy the 'social' in 'social sites'.
They don't retweet, don't say hello, don't ask about your day, all they do is post automated adds or slogans to get you to buy their products or brand.
And when bots become 40% of a social sites active accounts, the end is near, as people loose interest, get sick of never being responded to, and either out grow or move on to other more personable social site.
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Post by X factor on Apr 4, 2014 11:54:43 GMT -5
A site like Photobucket, photo hosting site, will fail because they're to greedy to realize users don't like having adds crammed down their throats.
Where adds take precident over users, where adds, even on high speed internet, still manage to clog up browser.
I mean who has time for that?
Why would I buy a product from add that annoys the hell out of me by slowing down what I'm trying to do?
And also, adds that follow you around the net, from page to page, how insulting, I've never ever met anyone in real life who's amused by this, most people find it gross.
I know what I want to buy, when I want to buy it, and if I buy it once, don't need for same product to follow me around net forever.
Obviously sites don't really how intrusive and annoying that is to most. No one is amused by it.
Sorry, but in the year 2014, people still like and value their privacy.(And in this day and age there's just to many other alternatives than to put up with old dinosaur sites that spit on users with intrusive programs, and adds that clog up browser) With NSA spying and all, hackers, scams ect, people have just had enough.
People don't like being reduced to nothing more than mindless consumers, as if that's your only value.
Art, expression, and everything else suffers because of that.
And sites that don't realize that, suffer, fail, as users, former users, stop posting on them, stop utilizing their services once they no longer feel safe and secure on site.
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Post by X factor on Apr 4, 2014 14:30:01 GMT -5
Sites that spy, embed spyware, add ware are like Hotels that install cameras in shower to peek at customersYep, it's no different. I mean with Instagram and other more easy to use photo sharing sites, some of the older Dinosaur photo sharing sites like Bucket, Flckr and others, really need to change their ways. And even Topixs is beginning to loose followers, participants, as a thick film or mesh of adds constantly clog up browser and prevent user from typing. (people go on sites to interact with each other, not adds) Even with high speed internet, it can be like using dial up service, cause all they do is cram that many more adds, or adds that are more powerful, and so slow computer down, or browser, with scripts ect. There's nothing a user enjoys about that, users expect lightning quick speed when on line, and few have the patients to give up that speed, instant key pad response so some add can first present itself. Some sites are haunted(yes another term I invented) In that if you go to them, there's nothing but adds, no people at all. Just adds, scripts, pop ups, that long since drove away users, so it's simply adds selling to other adds. How sad. Not sure what makes companies think that if they interfere with your online experience, you'll then buy their product? Not sure why people who program adds think that. I can personally say there are a few sites, and a current one I'm fixing to close down, where my experience on them has been ruined do to so many adds being crambed down your throat, or browser, that it makes high speed internet operate as slow as dial up. When that happens I just go elsewhere, to many other options to put up with that nonsense.
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Post by X factor on Jun 6, 2014 16:33:30 GMT -5
Life after social media, now what?Life after social media...what do ya do? What happens when social media looses it's charm, or better yet you simply grow up and mature, or the landscape of social media interaction simply changed around you. Me personally, I remember when social media first came out, in it's many forums, and I can honestly say everyone wanted to talk back then. There was a certain thrill to chatting, interacting, with someone whom you otherwise could not without incurring a high long distance phone bill... Then suddenly social media, the internet, allowed you the ability to communicate with people, friends, strangers, instantly, at basically no cost. This was back before major brands learned the benefits of being online...this was back when just common, non celebrity type souls interacted. Fast forward a few years, then companies, brand names, and celebs begin learning the value of the internet, and social sites ect. Fast forward some more...now most major sites have been totally taken over by billion dollar corporations, news sites, celebrities, which have once again sent common every day people packing. Now no one wants to interact with you online unless you're already famous, or represent some 'brand name'. As such social media is loosing it's appeal for many, as most have simply been relegated to being an observer or an admirer of others. Well that was the whole point of the internet, social media, to begin with, was to unit common people. Now common people have once again been separated, and are afraid to interact with one another, unless it involves some dorky politician or celebrity or brand name item or image or product. But for average people, it's almost like watching television now...in that you're simply an observer. So, what's next? Where do people go after social media?
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Post by X factor on Sept 1, 2014 8:48:52 GMT -5
Sorry, but I don't get on social media to interact with adds and bots.
And it's sad sites continue to saturate space and members with 'bots'.
You hit links, just to realize article was written so you'd first have to shift through tons of adds, or hit arrow tabs ect.
And that the person who wrote the article doesn't even know you exist, nor do they care you visited their site, which is no more than some auto 'hit' driven money generator for them.
And that's why most blog articles seem so generic.
Accept here.
Nothing is written for profit here and is why sentiment expressed in posts are still so touching.
The spirit of true old fashion blogging hasn't been corrupted here by 'sales and commerce'.
And is why the Zone is it's own unique place.
There are no zombie writers here, thank goodness.
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Post by X factor on May 10, 2015 15:37:31 GMT -5
It's near impossible to gain new followers on twitter now days, compared to like 4 years ago, or whenever it started. Twitter, like other such sites, have become really 'monetized', commercialized. Auto bots won't even follow you if you're not deemed to have enough 'target followers' for whatever brand or product. Years ago you could be a unknown on twitter and still within days have 30 followers. Today that's near impossible 1. Devices have changed, most people use twitter on phone apps and that really effects how many interact now days. No more sit down at desk top type of interaction. I think that was the golden era of social media, back when people had to sit down at a desk after work or school, in order to interact. Sitting down in once place makes you think more, longer, about things. Being on the go type of social media is why it feels so shallow now. I mean unless a superstar or brand name (sad that brand names have become superstars within themselves) or simply buy follower (buy bots with fake personalities) or have a large enough pool of real life friends, your followers on twitter just will not grow very fast. Sadly most people just don't care what you have to say unless you're a superstar or brand name or official media outlet. Sad how many have been conditioned like that, to hold the world of 'fake' to such high regards. In my opinion social media was way more interactive when it first came out, and people were amazed at the ability of being able to project thoughts to others, for free, all around the world, country. Back then people really wanted to reach out, really loved meeting 'strangers' online. It gave one a buzz, like 'Wow, I just had a conversation with someone 1000 miles away'It was organic, social media that is, when it first came out, until slowly celebrities and corporations begin seeing the value in it, and also webmasters and or creators of the sites. They to began seeing that they could charge for advertising based on how many people were on the site. People who still blog on social media do so more out of habit now, not results or effects. Kind of like if one smokes, the effect of the nicotine has long wore out, but still smoke out of habit. Forum blogs like this are about extinct to many, but I still love them. This is more of a blog forum, but I love it way more than face book. It's quiet and private until you want people to see what you've written. And you have complete control over your content. Other forms give you a time limit to delete, like after 10 minutes you can't delete. It's all about having control over your content. Social media keeps evolving, who knows what it'll be like tomorrow.
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Post by X factor on Oct 16, 2015 20:07:14 GMT -5
Sooner or later you will simply out grow the need for social mediaIt's like denial, but sooner or later, you just realize no one cares what you write, how you feel, how you look, and so forth. It's all a façade, and sooner or later the glow of social media wears off. You realize now it's all a money making mechanism, and most accounts are money making lifeless accounts paid to tweet or paid to FB. Automated accounts that just post automated headline stories or pop culture stories for money. If Shakespeare had written his master pieces on social media, it would be just another post or posts. Most could have written books or novels with all the useless time put into social media, or earned a degree. Even TV watching is becoming a waste of time, news shows like Fox and CNN ect, who prop up same Studio experts who some how feel they have better insight into reality than the rest of us. Obviously they don't. Social media gives the illusion of knowledge so that when you really have to learn something again, a true trade, mind isn't use to studying for long lengths of time do to effects of social media where everything is instant. Also, social media really only makes sense if you have a group of friends you're already tight with in real life. If you have no friends in real life, trying to create fake ones online will never ever happen. Myself though, being a true writer, in that writing is in me DNA, I wrote before social media, through social media, and will be writing, expressing thoughts long after I've lost use for social media, I suppose social media for me has just been like a hallway to get some where else...who knows, only time will tell.
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Post by X factor on Jun 19, 2016 14:37:30 GMT -5
Have no use for FB anymore
Just got off of an old FB account, deleted all photos, then just starred at screen.
I realized I had nothing to say or share on there at the moment.
I always go through mood driven stages, then get off, then go back months later and embarrassed about what I posted or wrote at the time, then end up deleting and starting over again as new mood sees fit.
I think now, unless have a brand or particular business to pitch, social media is kind of losing it's punch with many.
No one has 'gobs' of friends anymore unless popular and in school and belong to associations or something.
But if just a loner, there's really no incentive to go on there anymore.
At least not for myself.
Could change in the future, but as of now I'm just all FB'd out.
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Post by X factor on Sept 7, 2016 20:33:22 GMT -5
I think my social media peak was a few years ago, maybe 4-5 years ago, and since then just been coming down.
The thrill just isn't there anymore, at least not for me.
Meeting strangers online no longer has same appeal in this dangerous world, where more than likely all they want to do is steal something from you, get information out of you.
I no longer want to be popular or known online, just makes you more of a target to scammers.
No longer want public profile, never did actually, and never really gave one, cause even way back when, just knew it was stupid to divulge so much about self in public, and then not be able to control own content once posted.
Now I just write, type, for own therapy, to relax, like cave writing I suppose.
Cause when dead, won't be able to, all will freeze, no more thoughts, nothing, it just stops, and whatever you didn't or weren't able to say, never will get said, at least not by you.
You stop, but the world just keeps moving, more are born, weather continues, just like life continues now, even though people were around 5000 years ago, all feeling their generation was the last, their god was the 'one', yet they've been dead for 5000 years, and accept for Statesmen, leaders, nobles, no one know's of the countless billions that lived and died, average folks just like me and you, who outside of immediate family, made or had zero impact in the world, no more or less than an ant, if that.
But most of us made to feel we matter, do to 'God' or a God.
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