Is Capitolism a form of enslavement?...

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I'm only trying to find the truth here about capitalism...

And so I've been doing some reading about it's roots, which mainly came out of Europe, northern Europe...

In doing so stumbled across the word 'usury'...which basically means money lending at a profit or with interest.

I learned the Catholic Church, when it dominated Europe, was against this practice..'usury'...which is the primary money making mechanisms of large lending institutions, banks, ect.

Well then I wanted to know 'well why was 'usury' opposed for so long by the Catholic Church in Europe?'...

So I googled 'usury' and the bible...and was startled at what I found...

There was at least 25 verses in the old and new testament bible, that spoke out against this practice...wow....and I mean a big wow....

I say that cause if you study the origins of capitalism, usury is a big part of that origin...
A practice which the bible clearly speaks out against...

Here are a few verses..

1. Leviticus 25:36

Take no interest from him or profit, but fear your God, that your brother may live beside you.



2. Leviticus 25:35-37

“If your brother becomes poor and cannot maintain himself with you, you shall support him as though he were a stranger and a sojourner, and he shall live with you. Take no interest from him or profit, but fear your God, that your brother may live beside you. You shall not lend him your money at interest, nor give him your food for profit.


3. Ezekiel 18:13

Lends at interest, and takes profit; shall he then live? He shall not live. He has done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon himself.


Wow...and double wow....this means according to scripture...the very foundations of capitalism are evil...not my words...scriptures words...and no, I'm not talking about buying an apple from someone for 20 cents...I'm talking the whole gigantic banking, market system itself...which as become an empire of it's own.

Here is the link for more verses on 'usury'...

This is startling, and explains much...much I must get into later...

Fooled...America, and other western powers, people fooled, into thinking that greed, profiting off of others is somehow 'divine'...'gods way'...when according to scripture it's a sin...wow...

And the whole foundation of America is built on usury, banks and greed...

But we're all told this is 'goooooooood'...

Much more to follow...

Suffering under this system, and then always being told 'it's gods way'...never sit right with me...well now that I see scripture says different...I realize now 'God divine' doesn't support any system that exploits others...

This system is not natural

You can often use your own mood, stress level, to know what's good for you and what's bad.

I love to work...I've never been lazy while on a job...

So the issue, to me, isn't work...it's this system where you work, and how all your money is yanked from you cause either you don't earn enough or prices are jacked up to high.

Like trickery or something...you're told to work work work...but it seems you keep less less less of what your labor produces.

As if you're working not for your own benefit, but rather for the benefit of the system.

It becomes a drain after a while, for the labor class, to maintain moral under such a system, expecially as body gets older, wears out, but you still have to work, cause the system demands it...the system brutally demands that you labor until your dead, either that or live on the streets.

The wealthy class never notice this side of the system, they're not effected by it.

But it's brutal to lower income wage earners, I see what it does to people on the street level, how it makes older citizens, who still must earn money, do things on the streets, they otherwise wouldn't.

Hell, even the whole corn industry is driven by peoples need to earn money.

This system has given birth to all kinds of immoral crafts, that people do out of desperation, in order to not end up on the streets.

This system leaves behind very ugly residue, that the wealthy never see...but that more and more are starting to see, and even go through.

It's a stressful system, cause you're forced to labor, or live on the streets.
Regardless of your health, the system demands you labor, produce an income, or else.

It's why people rob banks, steal stuff, cheat, extort, sell drugs ect...all do to the demands of this system, which some seem to worship.

I often read or hear accounts of immigrants from the 50's, 60's, telling stories about how their Father or Grandfather worked until they dropped, dead at like 45 or 48...do to exhaustion.

I mean is that really ideal?
To work work work, wear your body out to the point where you simply die?

Yet we're brainwashed by big industry and told that some how that's 'gooood'...

"Work work work, labor labor labor for us until you drop dead'...

I question this system more and more.

I love freedom, I love to work (when on own farm or land, producing for self, not producing for Government or the rest of society)but not sure if this system is the ultimate utopia, many have been brainwashed into thinking it is...

Are capitalism and commercialism forms of enslavement?

In and of themselves no, but when forced to participate in any system, against your will, than yes.

As such, whole Governments, and the laws they draft, can be seen as forms of enslavement.

That includes Communism also...for those who think I'm 'going there'...


Before Communism or Capitalism, what was life like for most?...nomadic?

Before that people had to live under brutal Kingships, or strict religious rulers (Which many muslims still live under).

But lets stick to capitalism, and government.

No one is free in America, when every square inch of land is owned or zoned.

Freedom is being able to say 'screw this', and just go off somewhere and set up a tent, and live off the land.

But in America you can't do that...you either must own the land, or have some kind of permit, both of which costs money...which goes back to 'is capitalism a form of enslavement'.

If land has been priced out of the hands of the working poor, than what are the working poor working for?, to stay poor?

A lot of people are just tired...tired of the game, the mirage, as if if you just work a bit harder, things will pay off...hogwash.

The harder you work, the more you wear your body out, the more prices go up, taxes go up, so that the net gain is still zero.

Many people just want to leave the system, but can't, cause can't afford land that costs $200,000 for 40 acres ect.

Capitalism is enslavement to people who labor, who can't afford, or are forced to 'buy' their way to a better life.

It has nothing to do with being lazy.

Work and employment are two totally different things

Work, is what pioneers did, what Native Indians did, what Pilgrims did...in that you go into woods, gather natural resources, build cabin, teepee, construct levies, ect

That's work, you worked to live, like a Beaver.



A beaver works, labors, but is not employed.

Do you see the difference?

And it's what man use to do.

Unless you're getting paid a lot of money to get ahead, being employeed and receiving small compensation for your time and labor in no way compares to the life one could have is just allowed to be free in nature and live as they see fit, grow own food, live on land for free...yes free!!, as the animals do.

Why is it that someone else always has to profit from everything we do, including just existing?

This is not freedom, it's almost like legal robbery.

The system is a joke for most, who regardless of 1000's of hours of labor, will never be able to afford to live in Mansion.

So if one can't have a Mansion, the next best thing is to have the world, nature, as animals do, as Geese do, as Ducks do, Deer, in that the whole planet is theirs, mountain ranges, lakes, oceans.

But not with man.

Not with greedy man who has twisted everything for a few who benefit off the backs, labor of many.

Not just the U.S.A. but all Governments are like this now, you trade freedom, for low wage slavery.

Forced to live within system, earning just enough to feed the corporate and governmental masters, and or religious masters, if living in middle east.

Sadly, most think all of this is normal...it is not...it's a perversion of what life on earth was origninally meant to be like for humans.

Capitalism is not my natural state of being
(Freedom and Democracy is my natural state)

Capitalism is not my natural state of being or desire, it may be yours, but it's not mine, not anymore at least.

My natural state of being, at this stage in life, under current mental circumstances, is to simply be left a lone.

In that I see the futility in it all, employment, renting your labor out, becoming subservient to employer just to really get no where.

It's not liking working for a wage will yield one a castle for their efforts, maybe a small apartment, but no castle.

It just all seems futile to me right now, simple village life seems far more appealing where you grow own crops, no banks, no interests rates, no federal reserve, no mortgages, no APR and so forth.

For instance, even if you want to create own small shuttle company, right off the bat the start off costs are more than you'll earn for a few months as business gets off the ground.

Auto or small insurance alone runs around $6-8 a month, so right of the bat under pressure to first earn that before even generating profit.

The amount of money and resources that get sucked out of you is just incredible, all to feed this gigantic money sucking machine.

After a while it just takes away your enthusiasm.
I have no desire to be apart of any of it, but you really have no choice, you have to.

Either you're a employee in this system or an employer, or blessed enough to have independent wealth where you can just live, fly around the world on permanent vacation, or set world records.

I get on craigslist, scan through all the misc jobs, and everyone of them depresses me.

Everyone of them has impressive title, yet none will yield a castle, so you're basically working, dreaming of that castle, until old and sickly then pass away.

It's a sham.

There's two types of riches, one is acquired through monetary wealth, the other is acquired through contentment and realizing Earth is the wealth.

Animals enjoy the latter type of wealth.

Man, on the other hand, has always horded geographical areas, then forced everyone within those geographical areas to work, slave, and labor to keep a few comfortable.

In other words if there's a King, everyone else has to work, slave and labor to first satisfy the needs of the King, and then the 'State', and then what's left over, yourself or family.

That system dates back 1000's of years in one form or another.



Well there's no more King, per say, today, but the King has been replaced by Corporate interests.

And Governments are beholden to these corporate interests, which tilt the laws of the land, business laws and so forth, to their favor and is why so much of the wealth floats upwards, and not downwards.

It's the collective labor of the poor that makes a few rich (investors), it's not the few rich who make the masses prosper

The working or employed poor earn every dime they get, and are in tern are given a very small % of the profits their labor helped generate.

Then the money earned from profits goes upwards, is manipulated through the markets, multiplied through securities, loans, (and all sorts of other tricks of financing), and shipped off.

That wealth never returns to the people once it leaves them, a lot of this instead is shipped off over seas to foreign banking institutions, in the billions and trillions, where it just sits.

In the mean time, for you part, for helping to make a few rich, you get $12 an hour (ect) to stay poor and labor, and to never be able to rise above basic bills, unless of course through credit, where interest rates are charged, and once again the money flows upwards.
Always upwards, profits never flow downwards, sometimes they do in the form of wage increase.

But other than wage increase, salary increase, all the profits and wealth flow upwards.

And then whatever you have left the Government comes in and takes through mandatory taxes, and fees which come in a lot of forms.
Property tax, income tax, fuel tax, death tax, estate tax, insurance tax, tags for car, medical tax (forced health care law).
Anytime an insurance is mandated, it's a form of tax.

It's all futile.

Go to a senior home and see what the end result of it all is, people sickly laying up in bed with nothing.

None of them ever getting that castle through years of exploited labor.

Capitalism is the wrong word for it today. Capitalism is really only applied to banks now.

But what me and you do on daily basis is not capitalism.

All we do is labor, rent our bodies for 4-16 hours a day for a wage.

Democracy and capitalism are often terms that get confused with one another.

What I want, love, is democracy, freedom, but under that freedom corporate or collective greed and exploitation of citizens is a scourge.

I probably didn't explain that right, but someone better versed on 'what I mean' rather than maybe how I expressed it, will know what I was trying to express.

A political retard will simple think that cause I don't favor exploitive Capitalist that I automatically love socialism or communism.

A Fox News viewer or talk radio viewer will automatically think that.

But someone more keen, will totally understand what I was trying to convey, even though I may not have used proper terms.

Why do some people choose to allow capitalism to turn them into monsters??

Take the 'tech world' for example, so many in that industry started off as cute eyed college students who were so 'down' for freedom of expression and whatever...now fast forward 20 + years and look at them now...some rival the Drug Cartel in their ruthlessness and greed, only tech people are ruthless in other ways other than violence.

The tech world is ruthless in the form of deceit and exploitation and out and right greed, and the things they'll do to continue to get more rich, even though can't spend the money they've earned in 100 lifetimes, it just seems it's never enough.

Example, in the old days you'd go to store, buy a 'program' in the form of a disc, ect, now it's all download type stuff, so it's like your computer or progrom/software, forever has embilical cord tied to the company, and so say if you don't 'update', you know the whole 'Just update for 30% off' type stuff, than it's like they can just send code to your software and scramble it.

Until you do decide to update..

They monitor your activity and ect, it's just sick...totally sick, but it's the new world now.

Is this what capitolism turns people into...monsters?...exploitive monsters with no concscious, where all that matters is charts showing profit?

Always in the effort to get you to spend more, and more and more, to fix problems 'they' invent...almost like the ___ virus.

Another example is how Apple got sued for making their older phones run slower, so people would be compelled to always buy newer models...what type of humans do this?

How do they sleep at night?

To look in the mirror, and see a monster starring back at 'you'...I don't get it, and then to be OK with being a monster...I don't get that level of existance, unless one is just hardwired t be a certain way, like a insect, and therefore the concept of good and wrong doest register with such types.

I'm just glad I'm not like that.

Capitolism is what's destroying capitolism

How many have moved into a apartment complex where rent like $500.00 initially, then years later bumps up to $1,200.00 or more! yet haven't gotten a 50% raise in pay.

That's kind of what I'm going through now, if tried moving in today, I couldn't, or would have to have employer fake a check where I was shown making more than I do.

It's a sick capitolistic Real Estate sham or 'flip', where every so many years new management groups buys out the old, after the old fixes place up to justify increase in rent, this process just keeps repeating itself over and over, each new management company adds this, fixes that, then sells in a few years at a profit, but the people who are suffering are the renters who's pay checks aren't going up as fast as rent is, and now with inflation, just makes it worse.

Just got notice they're going to 're-pave' where I stay.....why!?

Why?, just so when sell in a few years the next buyers can justify raising rent yet again, I find it sickening!

I mean as you age, you can only work so many gdm hours a day, and if have a labor type job, it's worse, and my health comes before anything else, my health and sanity, is why refuse to go get 2-3 jobs and all that BS, just to never be home cause always working, what kind of life is that??

So with me, I just keep spending less, cutting this or that out until one day that won't even be good enough then will be forced to move or get a roommate.twylightzone.boards.net/thread/82/roomates-pros-cons?page=1

But not going to destroy body, and what's left of youthful health (even that's fading, cry out loud), just to play this game of kill body in order to pay basic bills, hell I'll go homeless before I do that, as in live out of a van, or small used RV.

But I refuse to let the system consume me.

The other option is passive income, as in becoming an Author, selling books online, other things online ect, where have other form of income coming in that don't have to physically labor for.

Capitalism is a rouge when gone amuck as it is now, greed for the sake of greed only helps the greedy.

Sadly, to many of us are caught in that net.